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m021
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PostWed Sep 29, 2004 1:43 pm    LCARS numbers

On LCARS panels/consoles the commands exist of numbers instead of text.
Like this:



But what do that numbers mean?


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starnova
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PostWed Sep 29, 2004 11:58 pm    

its just a bunch of jib jab

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sabertooth1217
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PostThu Sep 30, 2004 8:04 am    

starnova wrote:
its just a bunch of jib jab

I doubt that very Highly. I think It was a way for the Props Master of Star Trek to try and make it look more advance in stead of just using words.


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PostThu Sep 30, 2004 9:02 am    

I always found this weird. I mean, why don't they just make a more intu�tive graphic interface...? Pictures mean much more to the human brain than numbers do. And so do words. So... Even the Trek writers probably didn't expect the development of computers to be that fast

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starnova
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PostFri Oct 08, 2004 12:58 am    

i think it should be more in text

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Zeke Zabertini
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PostSat Oct 16, 2004 8:50 am    

I haven't got a good answer, but my best guess has always been that it's so they can serve multiple functions. For instance, instead of having the word "load torpedo" on a button on the tactical console, it would have the number "54-823" However, if the helm console was destroyed and the security officer had to take over maneuvering, he could re-route helm control to his console. "54-823" then might represent "port thrusters." See what I'm getting at? It's a weak explanation, I know, but it's the best I can do.

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PostTue Jan 04, 2005 4:59 pm    

maybe the numbers correspond with some sort of a rule for example
pj600 = malfunction in gelpack


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The_Doctor
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PostSun Jan 09, 2005 5:34 am    Production

I have a feeling when produciton designers needed to come up with consoles, they had limited computer knowledge and drew something that would look modern for a 1980's show. The layout and colors just look very 80ish to me, lol.

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PostSat Jun 18, 2005 10:33 pm    

Zeke Zabertini wrote:
I haven't got a good answer, but my best guess has always been that it's so they can serve multiple functions. For instance, instead of having the word "load torpedo" on a button on the tactical console, it would have the number "54-823" However, if the helm console was destroyed and the security officer had to take over maneuvering, he could re-route helm control to his console. "54-823" then might represent "port thrusters." See what I'm getting at? It's a weak explanation, I know, but it's the best I can do.


This is what I always thought too. Different programs have different controle needs, so instead of showing a picture of a word they used a number which can be tought to different people with difernt needs as having different functions based on what progrms were running.


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m021
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PostMon Jun 20, 2005 4:28 am    

Yeah, but come on: what normal person is able to remind the meaning of all those numbers? This seems far too risky:

"Hold on, I'll attach a tractor beam to your vessel"
*presses 51-742, and sees the alien vessel explode on the viewscreen*
"Ah, I remember again, 51-742 was the torpedo launchers"



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Tremiles
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PostMon Jun 20, 2005 7:22 pm    

But it is the future, they are smarter then us

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PostMon Jun 20, 2005 8:15 pm    

if u look closely there are leters on some

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starnova
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PostTue Jun 21, 2005 10:48 am    

but its still too complicated to memorize
or at least it is to me


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PostTue Jun 21, 2005 12:29 pm    

I'v had to memorise entire keyboard controles for certain games, were moves were compleetly unrelated to the leters they were on, it is not that dificult. you just have to remember placement and use the letter, or in Lcars case numbers as reference only if you forget. but it is not to complicated, and if you use it all the time it becomes second nature.

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InterstellarCrazed
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PostWed Jul 06, 2005 10:23 pm    

m021 wrote:
Yeah, but come on: what normal person is able to remind the meaning of all those numbers? This seems far too risky:

"Hold on, I'll attach a tractor beam to your vessel"
*presses 51-742, and sees the alien vessel explode on the viewscreen*
"Ah, I remember again, 51-742 was the torpedo launchers"




You have to also think that an average Star Fleet Officer has passed so many different Tests just to be able to join the Academy in the first place. After four years of learning what each of the numbers meant, I'm sure that they would be able to tell a few buttons apart by just using numbers.


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tycoon64
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PostThu Aug 11, 2005 8:51 am    

Heres the funny thing about Star Trek. Everything has some meaning that they hired people to create. For example- Klingon is a language that was created, The stardate system does have meaning (even if most cant find it), and the LCARS system has some sort of meaning. That is what makes Star TRek so believeable, everything is consistant. If things where confusing most people would probaly not watch it.

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Dr. Daystrom
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PostSun Aug 14, 2005 12:55 pm    

On the working LCARS system LCARS 24, they do have meaning, clear enough in this example:



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PostWed Oct 19, 2005 8:40 pm    

The above LCARS reminds me of HTML color codes lmao....

I was thinking that maybe it's about memorizing which codes correspond to which controls...and if you notice, we did the same thing with the Periodic Table of the Elements in Chemistry, we worked with it so much that by the end of the year we could tell you which element was where and all the information about it, etc...same thing for LCARS? The more you work with it (i.e. LCARS at Starfleet Academy as a Cadet), the more familiar you become with it so that when you are finally at a console on a ship in reality, you've memorized all the codes and controls???

Okay..am I making any sense here?


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