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Joey
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 our creater out numbered? the one who breathed life into us u would dare go against his ways? i know i wouldent
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Leo Wyatt
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| Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:33 am |
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Captain Dappet Wrote | Quote: | God says it's wrong.
He's sort of outnumbered, don't you think?  |
Only to those who don't believe in God and don't follow his word. Of course that's just my opinion. Don't take it like I am forcin.
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Joey
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| Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:42 am |
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before someone gets upset, lets dont turn this into a "do u belive in god?" topic"
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Leo Wyatt
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| Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:43 am |
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I agreed.  yeah don't want no huge fights lol
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Theresa
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| Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:52 am |
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Nooooo way. Not going around this circle again.
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Joey
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| Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:02 am |
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thats why i posted asking to stop this so pointless, i mean no ones opions really change so whats the point?
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Birdy
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| Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:05 pm |
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| Captain Dappet wrote: | I say it's right. The Canadian Government says it's right. The Dutch Government says it's right. The Belgian Government says it's right. The Spanish Government says it's right. Most Liberal groups say it's right, and many, many other people also say that it's right.
God says it's wrong.
He's sort of outnumbered, don't you think? |
 Well..,, That's what we think Dappy, not everyone
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Birdy
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| Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:06 pm |
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| harrykim234 wrote: | | thats why i posted asking to stop this so pointless, i mean no ones opions really change so whats the point? |
Exactly! I can't convince other people and I don't try/intend to.
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purple_kathryn
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when you say god you mean the bible which was written by men
the bible says a lot of things of wrong which most people have since realised are utter nonsense:
Shellfish are an abomination
Pork is unclean
People with defective sight should not approach the altar of god
you should have no contact with menstruating women
people who work on the sabbath should be put to death and so forth.
and what you really mean when you say it's "wrong" is that according to your interpretation of your particular brand of religion it's "wrong". That doesn't mean you have the right to tell people how to live their lives when what they're doing harms no one, and in fact makes them happy. If I actually believed in a god, I would like to think that they would be far more concerned with how we treat each other rather than who we fall in love with. But thats my opinion
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Theresa
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| Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:44 pm |
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I want to be very clear.
WE ARE NOT HAVING THIS DEBATE AGAIN.
If you need to, dig up an old topic, but we're not going to fight about this issue over and over and over again.
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Joey
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| Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:49 pm |
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| purple_kathryn wrote: | when you say god you mean the bible which was written by men
the bible says a lot of things of wrong which most people have since realised are utter nonsense:
Shellfish are an abomination
Pork is unclean
People with defective sight should not approach the altar of god
you should have no contact with menstruating women
people who work on the sabbath should be put to death and so forth.
and what you really mean when you say it's "wrong" is that according to your interpretation of your particular brand of religion it's "wrong". That doesn't mean you have the right to tell people how to live their lives when what they're doing harms no one, and in fact makes them happy. If I actually believed in a god, I would like to think that they would be far more concerned with how we treat each other rather than who we fall in love with. But thats my opinion
Kathryn |
this debate was already closed
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Republican_Man
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Horrible. Simply horrible.
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Valathous
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To quote the greatest leader the world has ever seen.
| Pierre Elliott Trudeau wrote: | | The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation. |
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Cathexis
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w00t! *sings* Oh CANADA, land that I looooooooooooooove! *whistles a happy tune* This is...one small step for gay rights...one...giant leap for mankind!
Well, I think they made a good decision...no matter what, I think it's wrong for the church to have the monopoly on marriage, in any situation. My mother got married in a courthouse, not in a church...GO MOM! w00t!
If I recall correctly, I started a topic on this subject, so you can all go fight in that thread, not this one... 
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Republican_Man
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| Valathous wrote: | To quote the greatest leader the world has ever seen.
| Pierre Elliott Trudeau wrote: | | The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation. |
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I would pretty much agree with that EXCEPT on gay marriage. There are reasons to stop that.
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Jeff Miller
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oh, of course there are. why are you even getting into the politics of another country? Your not even canidian.
people should be more concerned about the politics of their own country rather than that of another.
I don't want to sound mean but I think people should worry about things in their own country rather than what some other country does.
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Hitchhiker
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| Jeff Miller wrote: | | people should be more concerned about the politics of their own country rather than that of another. |
I debate the American politics on STV all the time (because most of the time the articles here are about the United States . . . go figure. . .).
Canadian politics aren't as funny as your American politics. I mean, our leaders are much more dynamic and interesting than yours because we've got so many, but really, the actual Parliamentary process of passing legislation is mundane compared to what you Americans do. 
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Starbuck
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So what if God says that gay marriage isn't right. So what if he created a man and a woman (oh, and they weren't real, ask any priest, its just a story ) Our nations aren't ruled by GOD and what GOD says.
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Founder
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| Starbuck wrote: | | Okay, lets start with your arrogance. |
Don't presume to tell me that what God says is not important. Its a little deeper then him creating a man and a woman, but I wouldn't expect you to know anything about it.
| Starbuck wrote: | | Now onto your Ignorance. |
They were real to many people. No real Priest would say its just a story. It is believed to be our(Catholics) beginning. Just becase you're intolerant, doesn't mean that it isn't. Your word means nothing. Especially when you make posts like that. You lose all credibility. This is the ONLY reason I don't support gay marriage, because of CERTAIN Gay people and their "supporters" attacking my Religion.
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Hitchhiker
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| Founder wrote: | | This is the ONLY reason I don't support gay marriage, because of CERTAIN Gay people and their "supporters" attacking my Religion. |
Ah, yes. Let the entire group suffer because a few of the group are being troublemakers. School discipline, I know it well.
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Founder
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| Hitchhiker wrote: | | Founder wrote: | | This is the ONLY reason I don't support gay marriage, because of CERTAIN Gay people and their "supporters" attacking my Religion. |
Ah, yes. Let the entire group suffer because a few of the group are being troublemakers. School discipline, I know it well. |
Few? Few? I definitly would not say few. More like 85%.
I refuse to reward anyone for intolerance. I won't be tolerant to someone else's opinion, if they can't be tolerant of mine.
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Cathexis
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Wellp, Founder. I'm probably one of the most tolerant people you'll ever meet and I respect your opinion on the subject!
Jeff, I agree with you for the most part...sometimes it seems that we get so wrapped up in the affairs of other countries that we don't step back and take a proper look at what's happening where we live. Of course, we should care to some degree about what's going on in other places since they have an impact and sometimes a strong influence on our government policies. Some countries set new precedents, etc....
Anywho, I support same-sex marriage mainly because I have come to believe that "marriage" itself, in the strictest sense of the word, is a state-matter, a contract, not a religious matter. Holy matrimony within the church is an entirely different thing....
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Birdy
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| Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:08 am |
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| Founder wrote: | | This is the ONLY reason I don't support gay marriage, because of CERTAIN Gay people and their "supporters" attacking my Religion. |
What about you? You're attacking their lifestyle.
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Theresa
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| Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:50 am |
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How did Founder attack anything? He merely stated his opinion, and gave reasons for it.
I did, however, see him attacked.
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Birdy
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| Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:31 am |
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Yeah, and by stating his opinion, he can offend and attack people that are gay. Just like gay people can attack him with their opinion. They have also enough reasons, but that's not the point.
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