Do you support abortions in general? |
HELL NO. It's evil and murder. |
|
25% |
[ 2 ] |
No. Never. |
|
12% |
[ 1 ] |
No, except for certain circumstances (rape, incest, etc) |
|
12% |
[ 1 ] |
Occasionally, under certain circumstances. |
|
25% |
[ 2 ] |
Yes, except no partial-birth abortion. |
|
0% |
[ 0 ] |
Yes. |
|
0% |
[ 0 ] |
It's the woman's body! It's her right to choose! |
|
25% |
[ 2 ] |
|
Total Votes : 8 |
|
Author |
Message |
Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:30 pm Abortion: Right or Wrong? |
|
So, what gives a woman the right to murder a life? Is an abortion right? Is it justified? Under what circumstances is it justified?
Share your opinions here!
I say NO, except under CERTAIN RARE circumstances.
-------signature-------
"Rights are only as good as the willingness of some to exercise responsibility for those rights- Fmr. Colorado Senate Pres. John Andrews
|
|
|
Zeke Zabertini Captain
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:32 pm |
|
Have we not been over this before?
Sidenote: Your polls are very biased in their wording, RM.
|
|
|
zero Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 4566 Location: Texas
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:33 pm |
|
I remember reading tons of these polls before. Still stuck on it are we?
It's the woman's body! It's her right to choose!
Last edited by zero on Thu May 05, 2005 7:41 pm; edited 1 time in total
|
|
|
sabertooth1217 UPN Boycotter
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 11484 Location: Texas
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:39 pm |
|
Quote: | HELL NO. It's evil and murder. |
If you don't want to have a baby, the simple matter is not to have sex. If you get pregnant, I think that it is not your choice to let it live or let it die; it is your right to make sure that it has a chance. Weather you place it up for adoption or not is your decision and only that.
Quote: | (rape, incest, etc) |
Doesn�t matter, It is still a live form and it deserves a right to live. It would be Murder to do anything other than letting it develop to the best of your abilities. What if you were that child? Woudl you want to live or die?
|
|
|
Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:43 pm |
|
No, except for certain circumstances (rape, incest, etc)
Occasionally, under certain circumstances
Why did you put both these options? They're like the same thing.
I choose those two.
|
|
|
Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:52 pm |
|
Hell No!!!!! I am against abortions. Even if a woman got raped shouldn't get an abortion. Use common sense and give the baby up for adoption instead of killing. NO alot pf people who can not have a baby and wants them.
|
|
|
Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:56 pm |
|
Zeke Zabertini wrote: | Have we not been over this before?
Sidenote: Your polls are very biased in their wording, RM. |
I allow for more choices.
Founder wrote: | No, except for certain circumstances (rape, incest, etc)
Occasionally, under certain circumstances
Why did you put both these options? They're like the same thing.
I choose those two. |
Well, the latter's like, other than right to choose. The former's like rape, incest, or chance of death. I shouldn't have put etc.
-------signature-------
"Rights are only as good as the willingness of some to exercise responsibility for those rights- Fmr. Colorado Senate Pres. John Andrews
|
|
|
Captain Patrick Commodore
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 2421
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:56 pm |
|
I think that it all comes down to the person and what going on in they lives. But i would never do it. so it okay in special cases.
|
|
|
zero Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 4566 Location: Texas
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:56 pm |
|
Rbgirl wrote: | Hell No!!!!! I am against abortions. Even if a woman got raped shouldn't get an abortion. Use common sense and give the baby up for adoption instead of killing. NO alot pf people who can not have a baby and wants them. |
uhh, even if she was raped? Oh god! why on earth would a woman go through the hell of labor and pregnancy if she is going to have a baby she does not want?
|
|
|
Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:57 pm |
|
zero wrote: | Rbgirl wrote: | Hell No!!!!! I am against abortions. Even if a woman got raped shouldn't get an abortion. Use common sense and give the baby up for adoption instead of killing. NO alot pf people who can not have a baby and wants them. |
uhh, even if she was raped? Oh god! why on earth would a woman go through the hell of labor and pregnancy if she is going to have a baby she does not want? |
Because it's a LIFE. Although I DO believe in exceptions for rape or chance of death.
-------signature-------
"Rights are only as good as the willingness of some to exercise responsibility for those rights- Fmr. Colorado Senate Pres. John Andrews
|
|
|
Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:58 pm |
|
It is not the baby's fault. The baby should not pay the price of the sins of the baby's father.
|
|
|
zero Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 4566 Location: Texas
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:58 pm |
|
^ If the woman got an abortion before 3 weeks... then it is not considered a baby, now is it?
edit: And the woman should pay the price for the babies father either.
|
|
|
Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
|
Thu May 05, 2005 7:59 pm |
|
Not to those who believe in abortions all you believe is killing of an innocent baby!! Just plain out evil and cruel hearted. ?Yes it is a baby. I don't care what any doctor says cause they didn't create the earth and humans.
Last edited by Leo Wyatt on Thu May 05, 2005 8:00 pm; edited 1 time in total
|
|
|
Captain Patrick Commodore
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 2421
|
Thu May 05, 2005 8:00 pm |
|
zero wrote: | ^ If the woman got an abortion before 3 weeks... then it is not considered a baby, now is it? |
true but i believe that you should not do it for rape.
|
|
|
Seven of Nine Sammie's Mammy
Joined: 16 Jun 2001 Posts: 7871 Location: North East England
|
Thu May 05, 2005 8:00 pm |
|
Actually, I see those two options as different. I chose occasionally, under certain circumstances.
I had an abortion for medical reasons mainly (although social issues and my mental health came into my decision, the medical issues were the main ones). I was not raped, and it wasn't incest. However, continuing the pregnancy would have put both myself and the baby at risk, and would also mean I would be unable to parent the daughter I already had (I did think about abortion then, but decided I couldn't do it).
Since I have been pregnant twice, I have changed my opinions on abortion. I do not agree with abortion after around 8 weeks unless it is going to harm the health of the mother or the baby, or in cases of rape (it can take longer than 8 weeks to realise you're pregnant). Before 8 weeks, I feel it should be basically the mothers decision, but it is no way an easy option. The family situation should also be taken into account, but it shouldn't be the overriding factor. As for abortions after 12 weeks, unless there is something very seriously wrong with the baby or the mothers life is at stake, I feel abortion shouldn't be used at all.
In real life, I am in a way glad I had an abortion. This does not mean that I do not have feelings about it, and I wish that I hadn't had to. People who I speak to about it tend to point out to me that it wouldn't have been fair to Samantha for me to have continued the pregnancy, for although I wish her to have siblings, depriving a child, especially at her age, of a mother for at least a year, and probably longer (for that is how long I wouldn't have been able to take care of her, and probably have spent in hospital) just wasn't right. I love Samantha completely, and it's killing me now that I can't just pick her up and hug her, but at least I can get on my knees and cuddle her, I can talk to her, comfort her when she falls over (which is often), sing to her and give her kisses. I had to have emergency surgery a week ago. Luckily, I'll be fully recovered in 3 months time, and I can do some things already. If I'd had been pregnant it would have been a completely different story.
|
|
|
Link, the Hero of Time Vice Admiral
Joined: 15 Sep 2001 Posts: 5581 Location: Kokori Forest, Hyrule
|
Thu May 05, 2005 8:08 pm |
|
I believe it's a woman's body and she has every right to have an abortion. Women have the right to use contraception (Though certain pharmacists are making even THAT a problem) and condoms as well.
In the case of Rape, incest or Medical probelms the mother should have an abortion no matter how many weeks.
Why should the woman have to deal with something concieved through Violence or disgusting practices?
|
|
|
Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
|
Thu May 05, 2005 8:10 pm |
|
Because it is murder. Simple as that. She can give the baby up to parents that want the baby. Labor pains big deal I had them. That's life. women shouldn't be big babies not to face it.
|
|
|
zero Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 4566 Location: Texas
|
Thu May 05, 2005 8:15 pm |
|
^ are you really being serious right now?? Labor pains? Big deal? You WANTED your kid. You WANTED to put up going into labor. Did these women who are raped WANT it? Did they WANT to get pregnant?
Thank you.
I want a baby when I get married. If I get pregnant from being raped there is no way in hell I'm going to want to have a baby and have part of that man inside me.
|
|
|
Seven of Nine Sammie's Mammy
Joined: 16 Jun 2001 Posts: 7871 Location: North East England
|
Thu May 05, 2005 8:23 pm |
|
And it's not always a case of wanting the baby. I did want mine really, but the cost would have been too great to keep it. If it had made it to full term without killing either of us, then I would have kept it, no questions there. Labour pains aren't what I'm worried about- compared to the pain I've been in recently, they're nothing. It was more a question of would we survive? If someone has been raped, should they have to live with the reminder of what happened everyday just because it made them pregnant? It wouldn't be fair on either the mother or the child.
|
|
|
Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
|
Thu May 05, 2005 8:26 pm |
|
Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | I believe it's a woman's body and she has every right to have an abortion. Women have the right to use contraception (Though certain pharmacists are making even THAT a problem) and condoms as well.
In the case of Rape, incest or Medical probelms the mother should have an abortion no matter how many weeks.
Why should the woman have to deal with something concieved through Violence or disgusting practices? |
You feel this strongly and are a...CATHOLIC? Wow. So, yeah, killing a life because it's the woman's choice. Oh, yeah, that's a good idea! Wow, so who gives a person the right to MURDER? Ridiculous.
-------signature-------
"Rights are only as good as the willingness of some to exercise responsibility for those rights- Fmr. Colorado Senate Pres. John Andrews
|
|
|
zero Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 4566 Location: Texas
|
Thu May 05, 2005 8:27 pm |
|
I'm sorry to hear about your conditions. But you did the right thing.
|
|
|
Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 27256 Location: United States of America
|
Thu May 05, 2005 8:33 pm |
|
This topic already exists here.
-------signature-------
Some of us fall by the wayside
And some of us soar to the stars
And some of us sail through our troubles
And some have to live with our scars
|
|
|
|