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Five - seveN
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May he rest in peace. Although I'm not christian, I see him as a man who has done lots of good things.
I'm glad to see that his wish not to be treated in the hospital anymore has been granted. He was an old man, it simply was his time to go. I'm happy he wasn't kept alive for two days by all sorts of medical devices; he just died in peace in the Vatican.
Again: may he rest in peace. 
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Cap. Proton
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| Lord Borg wrote: | | Ziona wrote: | God bless Pope John Paul II, my grandmother, and Terri Shiavo.
They have all died within the last three days...  Saddens me a bit.
RIP John Paul II (Saturday)
RIP Grandmum (Thursday)
RIP Terri Shiavo (Thursday) |
May god watch over them and let them rest in peace |
/\/\Agree--how sad 
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zero
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| Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:52 pm |
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sorry to hear about your loss Ziona.
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nadia
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:15 am |
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I'm sorry but i just don't understand, he was just a man why is every one so upset about his death?
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:07 am |
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He did a lot of great things in the world, and was a religious leader to millions.
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Hitchhiker
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:10 am |
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| nadia wrote: | | I'm sorry but i just don't understand, he was just a man why is every one so upset about his death? |
It's the measure of the man that brings about such a powerful response. Pope John Paul II was one of the most influential and powerful icons in our culture. One of the most astounding things about him was the way he reigned as pope: he was the "media pope," he had a website, travelled a lot, and utilized television to its fullest extent.
He was one of the most active players in the campaign to bring down the communist regimes of Eastern Europe after WWII. As Pope, he visited his native Poland and openly told the people not to fear their leaders and to have hope. The Pope was a huge symbol of this, not only to Catholics, but to people from every religion. I'm not Catholic, but I still mourn the death of the Pope. He extended his philosophies to everyone, whether they were Jewish, Muslim, Christian, or something else. Even though he rankled Western Catholics with his opposition to materialism and other Western philosophies, or his refusal to ordain women priests, he was still someone to respect and admire.
People need symbols, they need leaders who do great things so that they can look up and be inspired by these acts. John Paul II did all of that, he was a man who inspired the world. His death itself is sad because he has been around, for many people, their whole lives, and it almost seemed as if he would always be there. So while it may not be unexpected, it was a very real taste of reality.
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nadia
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:22 am |
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But he was just a man. If I went and did all of the things that he did and I died would the world stop to watch my funeral?
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Puck
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:56 am |
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If you were the religious leader of over 1,000,000,000 people, even more knew who you were, and your title carried almost the same weight as President, then yes, I am sure you would have millions of people flocking to see you buried too.
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nadia
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:07 am |
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Ok,ok,ok. But if he wasn't a leader of over 1,000,000,000 people and he still did those things would you then still watch his 3 hour funeral with the rest of the world?
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:12 am |
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Everyone was in mourning when MLK and Ghandi died, so I'm assuming.
Now are you going to say "What if he didn't do any of those things, would you still watch?" 
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nadia
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:16 am |
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No, acctualy I'm going to ask who is MLK and Ghandi?? And you still havn't answered my question.
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:26 am |
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If you knew who they were, you'd know that your question had been answered. Look them up for yourself.
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:27 am |
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Awww come on. Please tell me
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:03 am |
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| Hitchhiker wrote: | | nadia wrote: | | I'm sorry but i just don't understand, he was just a man why is every one so upset about his death? |
It's the measure of the man that brings about such a powerful response. Pope John Paul II was one of the most influential and powerful icons in our culture. One of the most astounding things about him was the way he reigned as pope: he was the "media pope," he had a website, travelled a lot, and utilized television to its fullest extent.
He was one of the most active players in the campaign to bring down the communist regimes of Eastern Europe after WWII. As Pope, he visited his native Poland and openly told the people not to fear their leaders and to have hope. The Pope was a huge symbol of this, not only to Catholics, but to people from every religion. I'm not Catholic, but I still mourn the death of the Pope. He extended his philosophies to everyone, whether they were Jewish, Muslim, Christian, or something else. Even though he rankled Western Catholics with his opposition to materialism and other Western philosophies, or his refusal to ordain women priests, he was still someone to respect and admire.
People need symbols, they need leaders who do great things so that they can look up and be inspired by these acts. John Paul II did all of that, he was a man who inspired the world. His death itself is sad because he has been around, for many people, their whole lives, and it almost seemed as if he would always be there. So while it may not be unexpected, it was a very real taste of reality. |
Yes. Very well said, Tach. That's right. Look at how many people he lead, and the impact he had. He was one of the most influencial people in ending communism in Poland and Russia and was one of the FEW people to actually get Fidel Castro to wear clothes OTHER THAN HIS MILITARY UNIFORM. Now THAT says something.
| nadia wrote: | | No, acctualy I'm going to ask who is MLK and Ghandi?? And you still havn't answered my question. |
Alright, you don't know THAT? Martin Luther King Junior and Ghandi? Huh? What? If you don't know that, then why are you posting in WN? You seem uninformed, especially with that comment, and therefore you should really GET informed or not post here. At least that's what I think, because I like informed posts. Just a suggestion from a friendly neighbor at STV 
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lionhead
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:55 am |
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i thought he was already dead like 300 million years ago.
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:54 pm |
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| nadia wrote: | | No, acctualy I'm going to ask who is MLK and Ghandi?? And you still havn't answered my question. |
MLK=Martin Luther King-Revolutionized Civil Rights
Ghandi=Was able to push the British out of India through peace
Both men did so much more though. What planet do you live in? How do you not know who they are?
Would you be remembered if you did all of those things but did not hold the title of Pope? Unless it was publicly known, no one except the people you affected, would care. If it was publicly known, then yes you would be held in high regard for doing all the things the Pope did.
| lionhead wrote: | | i thought he was already dead like 300 million years ago. |
I knew you were going to come in here and disrespect the Pope, after your views were noted about Catholiscm. 
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lionhead
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:52 pm |
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It was just a joke.  i don't disrespect the pope, the poor guy hasn't done anything wrong. He, if anyone deserves too go to heaven. If he doesn't, no one will.
Funny, that you of all people knows me so well
My views on Catholicsm do go straight against the Vatican though, ironic isn't it?
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Hitchhiker
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nadia
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:38 pm |
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The reason i posted here was to talk about the pope not MLK and the other guy
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:57 pm |
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| nadia wrote: | | The reason i posted here was to talk about the pope not MLK and the other guy |
Ok and we answered your question....
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nadia
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| Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:19 pm |
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All righty then. I have nothing else to add.
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Curtis
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| Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:34 pm |
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| Ziona wrote: | RIP John Paul II (Saturday)
RIP Grandmum (Thursday)
RIP Terri Shiavo (Thursday) |
May they all three rest in peace...especially John Paul II and your grandmum and may God watch over them all
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