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~Voyager Fan~ Captain's Assistant
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 83 Location: On board voyager assisting the captain
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:31 am |
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no. i dont think its possible. 4 now (lol)
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EnsignParis Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:04 pm |
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[quote="Tyvek"] Lt.BirdGod wrote: |
Einsteins Theory of Relativity proved that nothing could travel faster than light in a vacuum, So FTL (Faster than Light Propulsion) is not possible, according to this theory. No matter the mass or energy(Because the ToR also stated that all matter has infinate energay but limited mass). |
NOOOOOO!!! Mass does NOT BY ANY MEANS have infinate energy. If you looked at the equation e=mc^2 for two seconds, you'd realize that what you said was completely false.
for example:
e=1kg*(186000mi/s)^2
e=34596000000kg/mi/s
there you have it. 1 kg of mass has a finite (albeit absolutely massive) amount of energy.
(kg/mi/s = 1 unit of energy in this case)
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borgslayer Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 2646 Location: Las Vegas
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:15 pm |
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Hence my theory of time travel
Alright now people have said that time travel is not possible. Yet it has already happened to some extent. In theory since I can predict some of the outcome of my future I can say that time travel is happening already. If drew a 1 block line and walk on it then I know that the future is me arriving at the end of the line. The future already exist since the past exist. I know that people would say the "future has not been written yet"
In theory if we go back to the past now the people in the past timeline could say the same thing if we ask them about the future. You see people the future has already been written it is merely being re-written over time. People have already been to the future, present, and past. My time travel theory can explain why some people in this world have vanished without a trace. I believe these people were erased from history because of time travel. I may sound crazy but this theory is not ignorable.
This would explain why the colony of roanoke vanished.
Past alters future.
Present alters future
Future can alter its future.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:04 pm |
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borgslayer wrote: | Hence my theory of time travel
Alright now people have said that time travel is not possible. Yet it has already happened to some extent. In theory since I can predict some of the outcome of my future I can say that time travel is happening already. If drew a 1 block line and walk on it then I know that the future is me arriving at the end of the line. The future already exist since the past exist. I know that people would say the "future has not been written yet" |
no, you take a guess at your future, but its not 100% sure your future will turn out the way you say it does. so no, you are not predicting anything. predicting means you actually KNOW whats going too happen.
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In theory if we go back to the past now the people in the past timeline could say the same thing if we ask them about the future. You see people the future has already been written it is merely being re-written over time. People have already been to the future, present, and past. My time travel theory can explain why some people in this world have vanished without a trace. I believe these people were erased from history because of time travel. I may sound crazy but this theory is not ignorable.
This would explain why the colony of roanoke vanished.
Past alters future.
Present alters future
Future can alter its future. |
Present alters future, that true. But past does not alter future, it alters present which in his turn alters the future. Your theory is Wrong and clearly flaw.
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 3514 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:20 pm |
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People who have vanished could not have been 'erased' because if they were 'erased' we wouldn't remember them.
Although perhaps they have just travelled back or forward in time . . .
If one could know the exact position and velocity of every particle in the entire universe, then one could predict the future based on a set of probabilities. Because this obviously isn't possible though, humans can't predict the future (at least not with any degree of scientific accuracy) on a practical basis.
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borgslayer Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 2646 Location: Las Vegas
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 5:51 pm |
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Basically "anything that can happen will happen and has happened already"
So since we think time travel is possible then it is possible it has already happened since we know it can happen.
Lets just say Alternate Realities must exist in-order for all outcomes to be possible.
And again I say anything that can happen will happen and has happened already.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:09 pm |
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borgslayer wrote: | Basically "anything that can happen will happen and has happened already"
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Thats not a fact or anything, its just a theory.
Quote: | Lets just say Alternate Realities must exist in-order for all outcomes to be possible.
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Alternate realities is a whole different subject.
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borgslayer Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 2646 Location: Las Vegas
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:20 pm |
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Quote: | Lets just say Alternate Realities must exist in-order for all outcomes to be possible.
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Alternate realities is a whole different subject.[/quote]
Alternate Realities is related to time travel since traveling back to the past and changing an event can change the future and an Alternate Reality will happen.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:36 pm |
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borgslayer wrote: |
Alternate Realities is related to time travel since traveling back to the past and changing an event can change the future and an Alternate Reality will happen. |
In theory, yes. but that would also totally contradict your own theory.
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 3567 Location: Shadow Moon
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Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:32 pm |
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Can someone explain what the colony of Raonoke is?
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borgslayer Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 2646 Location: Las Vegas
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Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:03 pm |
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In the early 1600 a group of English settlers landed on the island of Roanoke which is east of the carolinas. Now some settlers headed back to England to bring some news about landing on the Americas. Anyways after the settlers from England went back to Roanoke they found no one left because mysteriously everyone in the small colonial island have vanished without a trace. Hence the story of Roanoke Island.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:02 am |
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Sure, in the 17th centurey strange thing happened over night, people tough the world was flat for a long time.
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:08 am |
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ya back then a flat world made more sense then people living on a round sphere
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:00 am |
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Yeah, so people vanishing was a better explanation then kidnap or Murder too.
Thousands of things could have happend to that colony that is explainable, and logical.
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:37 pm |
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maybe they had to evacuate the area because of some disaster
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Captain Patrick Commodore
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 2421
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Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:53 am |
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I think that time travel is possible.
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Kylon Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 03 Jun 2002 Posts: 292 Location: In a distant galaxy far far away...
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Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:17 pm Einstein was wrong... |
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Einstein was wrong, and is wrong today.
Einstein didn't believe in quantum mechanics, which according to that(and which has been proven) light CAN travel faster than the speed of light due to the uncertainity principle.
Einstein is oldschool, quantum mechanics is new school.
Quantum mechanics is right(which again this has been proven), and Einstein has been proven wrong.
If you want more info on faster than light stuff, you can look into super luminal tunneling, or if you want quantum entanglement.
Also, if anything did go into a black hole, the reason it is supposedly able to travel back in time, is because due to the intense gravity field, and the intense warping of space time, all time within a black hole becomes one, past present future(or this is at least to my understanding). Since black holes do evaporate over time(they emit mass via radiation), you would instantaneously(from your perspective, if you weren't crushed) be converted and emitted as energy.
Anyway, alot of it's theory, alot of it's fact, I'm kinda sick, so I need to hit the sack.
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 3514 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:49 pm |
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The only thing that can never ever travel faster than light is light itself. Just like when you are walking: you can't travel faster than you are walking, and similarly light cannot travel faster than it is travelling at any given time. If it is increasing speed, it still isn't travelling faster than the speed of light because obviously its new speed is also the new speed of light. (I'm arguing it as a matter of semantics here.)
Einstein was not wrong in any concrete sense. I think he just thought too big. You're right that quantum mechanics has exposed the inadequacy of relativity (for example, relativity cannot explain the pre-Big Bang universe). Also, Einstein was aware of the faults in his theory--it was one reason he tried adding in a "cosmological constant" to see if that would fix things.
His theories work fine over a large scale, but the smaller one thinks then the more obvious it becomes that relativity doesn't apply. Hence, quantum mechanics are used. Physicists are trying to figure out what the relationship between quantum mechanics (the small) and relativity (the big) are.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:06 pm |
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he means that you can travel faster than the speed ofl ight without anything weird happening.
I agree with Kylon, einstein was wrong. I've been saying that for months but no one wants too believe me since i don't have a theory that proofs Einsteins theory is wrong.
Kyron did though.
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webtaz99 Commodore
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 1229 Location: The Other Side
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Sun Apr 17, 2005 12:27 am |
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The concept that nothing can travel faster than light is one of a set of assumptions Einstein used to formulate his theories, not a theory in itself. And while some of his conclusions may prove out wrong, others have been proven right.
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borgslayer Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 2646 Location: Las Vegas
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Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:31 pm |
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Nostradamus is a time traveler or just a great forteller of the future? The answer lies in the future.
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Birdy Socialist
Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 13502 Location: Here.
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Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:49 am |
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Well,... If you go into space, the time passes slower than on earth. So technically you'd be timetravelling then. There hasn't passed as much time for you as for the people on earth But that's the only form we know now.
I hope we discover someday how it's done, but I don't think it will ever happen. It's just too complicated.
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 3514 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:35 pm |
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Birdy wrote: | I hope we discover someday how it's done, but I don't think it will ever happen. It's just too complicated. |
Scientists actually have a pretty good idea of how one could accomplish time-travel (although, of course, that could all change if our current conception of the universe changes drastically again, which it quite possibly will). The major problem right now is not how one could travel in time, but how one will power it--any of the current scientifically plausible methods right now still require more power than we could ever produce at our current level of technology. We're talking wormhole-moving, antimatter-generating, gravity-creating power.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:47 am |
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Birdy wrote: | Well,... If you go into space, the time passes slower than on earth. So technically you'd be timetravelling then. There hasn't passed as much time for you as for the people on earth But that's the only form we know now.
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Thats not true. Thats a theory from a while back. before we realized that light travels at a certain speed and when something is far away we only see it when the light reaches us, which mean we see the past of that object (i'm talking about stars). But that isn't time travel.
Time travel isn't accompliced by speed.
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Birdy Socialist
Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 13502 Location: Here.
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Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:16 am |
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Hitchhiker wrote: | Scientists actually have a pretty good idea of how one could accomplish time-travel (although, of course, that could all change if our current conception of the universe changes drastically again, which it quite possibly will). The major problem right now is not how one could travel in time, but how one will power it--any of the current scientifically plausible methods right now still require more power than we could ever produce at our current level of technology. We're talking wormhole-moving, antimatter-generating, gravity-creating power. |
Ah........ right! We'll, that sounds more probable to me! I hope we can timetravel one day. Although I don't think I'll be around then
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