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Cathexis The Angel of Avalon
Joined: 26 Dec 2001 Posts: 5901 Location: ~~ Where Dreams Have No End�
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:08 pm Star Trek: First Contact Error? |
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Hey, I noticed in First Contact that there may have been an error that I just wanted to clarify. How many decks are really on a sovereign class vessel? Because in the movie, when the borg take the ship, one lieutenant reports, "It looks like they control decks 26-11; but when they took deck 11, they just stopped!"
Later when Picard and Lily are almost to the borged out area of the ship, Lily asks,"How big is this thing anyway?" and Picard answers, "There are 24 decks--". So which is it? 24 or 26? Or are the last two decks for cargo or summat like that?
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Omet'Ikilan Jem'hadar First
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 2045 Location: Bridge of Jem'Hadar Ship
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:41 pm |
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Umm yea the last to are cargo bays...i think it says something like that in the ship blueprints and such....
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Cathexis The Angel of Avalon
Joined: 26 Dec 2001 Posts: 5901 Location: ~~ Where Dreams Have No End�
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:53 pm |
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH....
Right then....
Thanx...
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:55 am |
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a cargo bay takes a whole deck?
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Cathexis The Angel of Avalon
Joined: 26 Dec 2001 Posts: 5901 Location: ~~ Where Dreams Have No End�
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 2:22 am |
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*shrugs* No clue...ask the nitpickers....
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 4081 Location: England
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:27 pm |
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It's supposed to have 34 Decks but i think in the film Worf says "...Deck 36" so thats just stupid.
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:31 am Re: Star Trek: First Contact Error? |
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Solscape wrote: | Hey, I noticed in First Contact that there may have been an error that I just wanted to clarify. How many decks are really on a sovereign class vessel? Because in the movie, when the borg take the ship, one lieutenant reports, "It looks like they control decks 26-11; but when they took deck 11, they just stopped!"
Later when Picard and Lily are almost to the borged out area of the ship, Lily asks,"How big is this thing anyway?" and Picard answers, "There are 24 decks--". So which is it? 24 or 26? Or are the last two decks for cargo or summat like that? |
Intriguing...
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:17 pm |
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It got me confused at first also. Interesting though.
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:05 am |
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They did it with Enterprise too. They had a hull breach on G deck, but we never heard of G deck before!
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Omet'Ikilan Jem'hadar First
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 2045 Location: Bridge of Jem'Hadar Ship
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:29 pm |
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Defiant I think G deck is just crew quarters or something
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Kuro-chan Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 335 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
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Spike001 Senior Cadet
Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 26 Location: Ohio
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 5:32 pm |
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I counted 24 also. Maybe Deck 24 is divided into 2 sub-decks? Just a thought.
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Cathexis The Angel of Avalon
Joined: 26 Dec 2001 Posts: 5901 Location: ~~ Where Dreams Have No End�
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Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:50 am |
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Hmmm interesting thought Spike! I'll look into it.
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diulei Ensign
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 54
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:49 am |
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That's one of the most common errors I hear being discussed. I think Sovereign class ships have 24 decks.
With that said, First Contact is still by far my favorite Star Trek movie.
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:29 am |
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i guess it can be 2 sub decks
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Captain Patrick Commodore
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:51 pm |
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The 25 and 26 deck are cargo bay i beleive.
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Cap. Proton Master Chief
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 1490 Location: U.S.S. Braveheart
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:58 am |
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This is very weird.....let me think about it..
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 4081 Location: England
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:08 am |
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It might be something to do with the fact that the Enterprise-E was different in all of the films it's in.
Or it could be like anti-matter pod storage or something silly like that.
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 11214 Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:35 pm |
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I'd say its along the linse that extra decks ppl mention are for things that ppl do not need to have acces to even if you were boarding and taking over the ship
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Kuro-chan Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 335 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:37 pm |
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I managed to modify an image showing the "24" deck layout aboard a Sovereign-Class starship.
http://www.kuro-chan.net/deck-layout24.png
Be warned for dial-up users, it's about half a megabyte in size.
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rabbit Lieutenant
Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 208
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Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:09 am |
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Star Trek Starship creator (the game) says it's 24 and so does the Star Trek encyclopedia... so i think it is 24
that's what i remember at least, lol
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Robsladey Commodore
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 1215 Location: Sickbay
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Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:43 am |
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I think it is 24 because there was a mistake in Nemesis, something like Riker on Deck 29 and then falling a few decks.
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 11214 Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:42 pm |
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I saw a cannon schematic, its like 24 decks. on some ships the very last deck or 2 is uninhabital, so not really counted
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Joey Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jul 2001 Posts: 4708
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Fri May 20, 2005 8:39 pm |
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ok but was that ship D or E???
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Fri May 20, 2005 11:05 pm |
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i am pretty sure its E
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