Neo Imperialism

[Hitchhiker]

[Republican_Man]

[Defiant]

You contradict yourself because you at the same time say that Hussein supports terrorism, and that no one except terrorists think terrorism is good.

[Founder]

Well I agree HH. This isn't the movies. The terrorists aren't inherently evil. They aren't bad guys bent on world domination. Their acts are evil. That was my point about India/Britain and KKK/Civil rights movements. Although Defiant decided to make a joke and others argued about the vilatity of the KKK's fall. The poin is, is that peaceful protesting wil lget the US's attention alot more than terrorist attacks will.

Defiant? That made no sense. If you support it what does that make you?

[Hitchhiker]

[Founder]

If someone invaded North America and you joined a resistance HH, Im sure we would all accept certain levels of survivals. I don't think we would condone chopping innocent people's heads off. Nor blowing ourselves up while killing innocents.

[Hitchhiker]

[Founder]

I understand what your saying. This is whats right to them. They turned evil though when they put crying people in front of a webcam and slowly cut their heads off with a dull blade. When they condoneds the hijacking of four planes and rammed them into buildings. They murdered innocents and IMO thats EVIL.

[Hitchhiker]

Yes, I might call those acts evil, but I'll admit that I'm afraid to label anything evil. The adjective is very strong, and very potent . . . I prefer to use an adjective such as unspeakably cruel or incredulously malicious.

But it's all semantics. . . . no matter to what degree you label it, the acts of terrorism we've seen cannot be condoned.

Like I've said however, many of these terrorists, including the fanatics, perceive the U.S. as a threat. Although it is impossible to please or persuade everyone, the U.S. is ultimately responsible for how the U.S. wants to portray itself. I'm sure it's not the U.S.' intention to seem imperialistic--but nevertheless that is how they seem, because of their actions, because the people who see these actions were not raised to think like an American and therefore do not understand in the way an American does.

[Republican_Man]

[Defiant]

[Founder]

[Defiant]

So today you called me a racist, RM called me a terrorist sympathizer, and now, theres nothing wrong with it? Your style of arguing needs serious work. Attacking the opposition is not a valid strategy.

[Founder]

Stop lieing. I never called you a rascist. What the hell is your problem? He didn't call you a terrorist sympathizer either.

[Defiant]

Except for where he did. But fine, let everyone else decide. Im leaving. You have fun with your attacking ways.

[Leo Wyatt]

To carrect the person above me, my username is not kmma no more. can u read? Not trying to be mean or anything. I don't want to be called kmma anymore thats why I ask to change my username. My name is Deb.

back on Topic anyway.


U people are worrying about the world around ya and not worrying about your own selves. Who cares anymore about the news and whats going on every where else? I am worried what going on right here for right now cause this subject and all the others topics just make people fight over a topic. Silly in my opinion.

[Jeremy]

Ok, until that last little bit I was actually amazed! You had gone through 4 pages mostly without attacking each other, So can you please make sure you don't start it again, thanks.

I believe that the actions of these terrorists are evil, but I also believe that there is a number of reasons that people have resorted to these tactics. No matter what people say here, America is perceved as being a country that takes over others. I have seen that generally with the public opinion here, and my dad who has been to places such as Pakistan has also seen it. Along with this is the opinion that it is a religious war. With the combination of these to things there is problems created.

I'll post more later, getting chucked off now.

[Hitchhiker]

[Jeremy]

Carrying on from where I left off, and this first bit seems to be repeating a bit of what HH just said, the reality is that America in some countries isn't liked. I agree that something should be done about terrorists, but probably not in the way that it is being combated at the moment. That way will only increase them. I hate the idea of leaving some dictators in power, but in some ways it will end up better probably. At the moment my life is pretty messed up, so I'm not certain on these views, but it's mostly what I feel at the moment.

[Founder]

RM? No one is listening to what we are saying. HH and Jeremy. You two make GREAT posts. Although I've said the same answers to them both a trillion times. I'll pu it in bold and maybe ya'll will notice my answers this time.

[Republican_Man]

[Jeremy]

You're right about me not living in a country ruled by a dictator. There are things that unless I did I can never understand, so I won't pretend to. I believe that a dictor should be overthrown, but the way I was looking at it was from a global perspective, and with America being hated. I think America should probably have highly trained squads that can go in, kill the leaders (terrorist or dictators) and then get out. This will be a lot more difficult that it is to say, but I think it would be better than invading countries to gt rid of them. I'm not saying this was the only reason for the Iraq war, but it's more general. The problem would be that the people who take the old leaders place could be worse.

Not all of them are raised to not mind killing children, but some are. There are kids of 5 that are trained to kill using guns and so on in some areas. I find it totally sick. And I agree that for some the struggle is not evil, but the methods are, but some people who claim to be muslims or the like are out for their own gain, and use religion to get supporters. Those people I find are just evil.

[Founder]

[Republican_Man]

[Founder]

Excellant find RM. Agreed 100%. Don't show anyone who opposes the war that. They will simply said its made up. They will never accept the truth. Reasons why I feared John Kerry for President.