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LightningBoy Commodore
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 1446 Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:26 am What does Christmas mean today? Is it too commercial? |
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Christmas is not just the day to celebrate the birth of Chirst, it is the day to celebrate love, giving, kindness and compassion. It's a day for families to come together, and enjoy eachother. It's a day for kids to get the toy they want, and parents to get the gift of watching their kid's eyes light up, when they see that new doll, action figure, or video game come out from under the wrapper. It's a months worth of anticipation, preparation, shopping, and fun all boiled down into one grand moment of merth.
Christmas may have changed throughout time, and some say it's lost its focus, but what it all comes down to is God's gift to all of us, happiness. Chirstmas is simply a time of joy and happiness, loving and giving, fun and play.
Being grown up now, I still like the stores that dress themselves up for big sales, they put out the adds, put up the lights, and live for the attention, and sales, they get. The commercialization of Chirstmas is a gift to us all. Without the commercials, the jingles, the lights, and the fun, it really would be kind of dull. And if just one kid is awed by the lights on a store at Christmas, and if just one parent is awed by their kids reaction to the lights, and if just one family has a good memory to cherish, it makes it all a bit better, and it makes it all worth while.
That is what Chirstmas is about. God's gift of joy to us all, even if it's changed its way of coming to us.
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:22 am |
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I celebrate it cause birth of Jesus. That what I am teaching my kids. They should not have to believe in santa clause that is not real. Well they do believe in SAnta but I am telling them the truth when they can understand the true meaning of christmas.
But some people will say it is too commercialize. And the world does get too carried away. I just want to visit family and dread of bringing too much toys that my kids does not need cause they got a room full.
Grandparents take Christmas to the extreme though.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:03 am |
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Christmas still has the same meaning as it did last year, and the year before that. REMEMBER! This year is no different than any other, believe me.
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:36 am |
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You got a point.
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Captain Dappet Forum Revolutionist
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 16756 Location: On my supersonic rocket ship.
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:50 am |
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Christmas is fun, but it has been way to commercialized. Anyway, I celebrate it because I think it's fun, not for Jesus. I could just name it something else than CHRISTmas, if that makes you all happier.
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superwoman Vice Admiral
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Sweden
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:10 am |
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^I don't celebrate chrstmas cause jesus was born eihter.
I do it cause it's a tradition and fun... sometimes. And I do like to buy stuff for others... I don't really mind that it's been commercialized... buying stuff is what christmas is all about really
Oh and beeing with the ones you love...
... but mostly because it's tradition...
...and eating candy...
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Leon87 Commodore
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 1589 Location: Hull
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:36 am |
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I just celebrate christmas for the fun of it and cause when you buy friends gifts your friendship gets stronger and you could end up being friends for life.
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 3567 Location: Shadow Moon
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:59 am |
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^'Tis largely the same for me.
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WeAz Commodore
Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 1519 Location: Where you aren't
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:21 am |
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Ensign Harry K wrote: | I just celebrate christmas for the fun of it and cause when you buy friends gifts your friendship gets stronger and you could end up being friends for life. | same
i read this poll a few days ago about how many people celebrate christmas for religious reasons. they polled about 200,000 people and of them, only 16% percent said they were celebrating it for religious reasons
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Alucard Vampire
Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Posts: 2780 Location: Caaaaaanada
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:22 am |
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I celebrate it because of what it means... Jesus's birthday
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:54 am |
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Seeing how I'm not religous I just get people gifts.
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:19 pm |
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I agree with the commie. Xmas is way too commercial. It ruins the spirit of the season. You are told you are a bad person if you dont buy expensive gifts from classy shops. Its exploitation at its worst.
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superwoman Vice Admiral
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Sweden
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:34 pm |
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Yeahyeahyeah... christmas has been commercialized... And that's bad and stuff... and I don't like commercialim and all that... it's evil and everything...
But christmas and buying stuff... it's like... just the way it's supposed to be. I loooove giving gifts to those I love! and wrapping them up really beautiful and lay them under the tree...
...and then shake all that are for me!
I would really miss all that. And I think most of you would to, so stop nagging and either do something about it or... you know. :|
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ACDC Girl Krazy Kitty
Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 7748 Location: Who Cares. :P
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:36 pm |
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I hate it when they say you have to spend money in order to bring joy.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:43 pm |
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superwoman wrote: | ^I don't celebrate chrstmas cause jesus was born eihter.
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Excuse me, but could you retype or explain that sentence for me?
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superwoman Vice Admiral
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Sweden
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:48 pm |
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lionhead wrote: | superwoman wrote: | ^I don't celebrate chrstmas cause jesus was born eihter.
| Excuse me, but could you retype or explain that sentence for me? |
Ey? well ok....
I don't celebrate christmas just because Jesus was born at that time... cause... I'm not religious... I don't belive in god... ehm... (I don't know how else to put it...)
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Sam Kenobi Not a Duke
Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 10373 Location: The 'Verse
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:36 pm |
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Geez, where the hell do ya'll live, Pottersville? Just because society is saying that everyone needs to buy expemsive gifts doesn't mean you have to. Just because society says that Christmas is only about bringing joy by buying people presents doesn't mean it is. Christmas is only too commercialized if you give in to it, and you really don't have to. If you have the joy of the spirit in your heart, then it will be oobvious enough to others and your joy will spread.
kmma wrote: | I celebrate it cause birth of Jesus. That what I am teaching my kids. They should not have to believe in santa clause that is not real. Well they do believe in SAnta but I am telling them the truth when they can understand the true meaning of christmas.
But some people will say it is too commercialize. And the world does get too carried away. I just want to visit family and dread of bringing too much toys that my kids does not need cause they got a room full.
Grandparents take Christmas to the extreme though. |
And I do believe telling your children something they have based their childhood on is fales is one of the worst mistakes a parent can make. Kids find out on their own their own interpretations of Santa. Do you really want to force them out of childhood that quilcky by telling something they've believed in for their whole, short lives is a lie?
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Seven of Nine Sammie's Mammy
Joined: 16 Jun 2001 Posts: 7871 Location: North East England
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:21 pm |
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I believe in St Nicolas, whom Santa Claus is based on.
*Pics coming soon of Sammie's first visit to see Father Christmas*
I celebrate Christmas mainly because of tradition, although I also like to remember it's true meaning. I'm going to tell Sammie about the birth of Jesus, but allow her to make her own mind up about both that and Santa when she's old enough.
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:18 pm |
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Yay for seeing pics of Sammies first xmas!!!
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LightningBoy Commodore
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 1446 Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:53 pm |
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Triam_Paris wrote: | Geez, where the hell do ya'll live, Pottersville? Just because society is saying that everyone needs to buy expemsive gifts doesn't mean you have to. Just because society says that Christmas is only about bringing joy by buying people presents doesn't mean it is. Christmas is only too commercialized if you give in to it, and you really don't have to. If you have the joy of the spirit in your heart, then it will be oobvious enough to others and your joy will spread. |
Amen. I beleive that Joy is the true gift of Jesus.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:07 am |
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superwoman wrote: |
Ey? well ok....
I don't celebrate christmas just because Jesus was born at that time... cause... I'm not religious... I don't belive in god... ehm... (I don't know how else to put it...) |
Ah, alright. thanks. Didn't really get that.
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:27 am |
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Triam Paris, I don't think you understood what I said. What I really meant to say was and should have said, I think Children should not believe in Santa Clause cause he is not the real reason to celebrate Christmas. Yes, do believe in Santa Clause thanks to Charlie and grandparents. THey went against my wishes to teach them about Santa Clause. I am trying to convince them the truth. I told my oldest son the truth. He understands of course he is 11 now.
That what Ishould have said. Santa aint the reason. Its a lie. Jesus is the truth. But those who dont believe thats ok. Give cause you care anyway.
Now did I put that in a right way now?
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 3567 Location: Shadow Moon
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Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:19 am |
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Seven of Nine wrote: | I believe in St Nicolas, whom Santa Claus is based on.
*Pics coming soon of Sammie's first visit to see Father Christmas*
I celebrate Christmas mainly because of tradition, although I also like to remember it's true meaning. I'm going to tell Sammie about the birth of Jesus, but allow her to make her own mind up about both that and Santa when she's old enough. |
He's way cooler than silly Santa, with his golden staff.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:46 pm |
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Plus i like Horses better than reindeers(sp?).
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
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Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:50 pm |
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It must be said though, I like reindeer better. Especially Vomit Comet,
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