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Kylon
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Joined: 03 Jun 2002
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Location: In a distant galaxy far far away...
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What do y'all think about genetic engineering in humans to make "Perfect humans"?
There's is something called the "Transhumanist movement", where basically, people want to move beyond being human, i.e make themselves immortal, make themselves have super high IQs, change the way they look ect...
I am interested in increasing my IQ through artificial means, but I don't want any genetic engineering, and maybe make my life a little bit longer, and I would like to remove my scaring acne.
Anyway, the best way to stop a movement you think is unholy, or that you just don't like, is to crush while it's small, and build public hatred for it before it has a chance to get it's roots.
Kind of like telling someone you know that someone else is really, really, bad before they meet them, and then they despise that person before they get a chance to know them.
Transhumanist website can be found at
www.transhumanism.org
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GhostOfAMemory
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:06 am |
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Spread that propoganda! 
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Curtis
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Joined: 29 Sep 2001
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Location: Wisconsin
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:31 am |
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I'd have to agree with GhostOfAMemory on this one  .
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Alucard
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Location: Caaaaaanada
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:41 am |
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I think it should be done, but only to Military Soldiers, make us have our own "Spartan" super soldiers
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Curtis
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Joined: 29 Sep 2001
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Location: Wisconsin
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:42 am |
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| mad_d0ggie wrote: | | I think it should be done, but only to Military Soldiers, make us have our own "Spartan" super soldiers |
Now wouldn't that be something 'eh?
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Five - seveN
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Location: Shadow Moon
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:43 am |
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| mad_d0ggie wrote: | | I think it should be done, but only to Military Soldiers, make us have our own "Spartan" super soldiers |
Very nice, until they turn against ''us''.
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Alucard
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:46 am |
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true, so we put a chip in their brains, so when they do... we can kill them"
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Five - seveN
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:51 am |
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Tss, 'tis still way too risky imo...
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Alucard
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 12:00 pm |
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true, it has risks. But we could make them have a weakness that only the creators know about. and they tell the heir to the weakness what happens if they die.
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sabertooth1217
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 12:59 pm |
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Well I�m 100% against the idea. Many people who are very religious and believe in God would feel the same. God made Human in the vision of himself. If we were to �Edit� our genetic code by any means you would be destroying God�s master piece. If you start to work on Humans like that you would break almost every moral law, same goes for abortion but that�s another story.
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Starbuck
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Joined: 19 Feb 2003
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Location: between chaos and melody
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:21 pm |
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I am against that for my own religous reasons.
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Alucard
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Location: Caaaaaanada
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:41 pm |
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true, i wasn't thinking. i just went against my own religion! 
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1/1
Rear Admiral
Joined: 12 Apr 2002
Posts: 3311
Location: La La Land
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:14 pm |
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I think scientist should stop playing God.
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sabertooth1217
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:25 pm |
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| 1/1 wrote: | | I think scientist should stop playing God. |
I agree but that will never happen no matter what we do. Humanity has a nature to want more than what they can have. It�s in out nature to improve ourselves but when is too far? Genetic engineering is where I cross the line, God made up one way, and we should not try to argue with that. Scientists want to try to better the life standards of humans but making �Super Humans�? What happens if some goes wrong and A person dies because of it? Even if someone commits there life to such a thing it�s just wrong on my standards. The world will never change, it 50 some years if Genetic Engineering hasn�t taken place yet there will still be talks of it� After all we did mange to make it into outer space.
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:29 pm |
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I can't say I see anything wrong with genetic engineering to a certain degree. If you can change things like getting rid of hereditary diseases, why not, or adding something that might prevent certain diseases.
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sabertooth1217
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:35 pm |
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| IntrepidIsMe wrote: | | I can't say I see anything wrong with genetic engineering to a certain degree. If you can change things like getting rid of hereditary diseases, why not, or adding something that might prevent certain diseases. |
And that Aaron is why genetic engineering is still being worked on as we speak. The very same thing could be said about Abortion (Killing others to cures diseases) or cloning (Making spare humans just for parts). Genetic engineering is no different, what would be the repercussions of this? No one knows!
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1/1
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:35 pm |
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| IntrepidIsMe wrote: | | I can't say I see anything wrong with genetic engineering to a certain degree. If you can change things like getting rid of hereditary diseases, why not, or adding something that might prevent certain diseases. |
But if you're making super humans for you own greed seems to be entirely different than helping people IMHO
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sabertooth1217
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:40 pm |
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| 1/1 wrote: | | IntrepidIsMe wrote: | | I can't say I see anything wrong with genetic engineering to a certain degree. If you can change things like getting rid of hereditary diseases, why not, or adding something that might prevent certain diseases. |
But if you're making super humans for you own greed seems to be entirely different than helping people IMHO |
You can�t argue with that. I see Aaron�s point of view very clearly, If I had cancer I would do anything to get rid of it� Everything other than going against my own beliefs.
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1/1
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:55 pm |
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I'm not argueing. I'm just saying that I think that using it to helppeople is ok. I don't think its right to make them for defense purposes or whatever.
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sabertooth1217
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:58 pm |
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| 1/1 wrote: | | I'm not argueing. I'm just saying that I think that using it to helppeople is ok. I don't think its right to make them for defense purposes or whatever. |
Whoops.... 
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Valathous
The Canadian, eh
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:53 pm |
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I dont see anything wrong with it. If it can get rid of diseases go for it. Of course this would only be available to the rich for a long time, so natures way of controlling our growing population (Cancer, AIDS) wont be very much affected.
Make people smarter, make them stronger. Imagine what we could accomplish with a population of Einsteins. We would accomplish things far beyond what you could imagine.
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Toad
Chief of Security
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| Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:03 pm |
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I think that it's good to try to improve human health. But it must be used carefully...
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Jeremy
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Joined: 03 Oct 2002
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| Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:07 am |
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| mad_d0ggie wrote: | | I think it should be done, but only to Military Soldiers, make us have our own "Spartan" super soldiers |
Someone has been playing Halo (2) too much, 
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Jeff Miller
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| Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:24 am |
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| Jeremy wrote: | | Someone has been playing Halo (2) too much, |
Something wrong with that?
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WeAz
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| Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:35 pm |
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| Jeff Miller wrote: | | Jeremy wrote: | | Someone has been playing Halo (2) too much, |
Something wrong with that? |
yeah is there
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