Spider-Man 3-what do you want?

1/1 · **Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:47 pm**

Spidey let his own Uncle die. I thought a hero should save people.

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1/1 · **Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:57 pm**

Hey, I don't even know who Spidey man really is so how can I tell other people who he is?

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

"Your Honour, please explain to this woman that she cannot create new charges out of thin air, during this case. Just how many crimes is Spider-Man going to be charged with? Should we set up a permanent bed here in the court for him? Your Honour, this woman, whilst very charming and nice to me, is a disgrace to the legal industry She should be stripped of every bit of power she has.

I rest my case, Your Honour."

1/1 · **Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:03 pm**

Well I've never been to court before. I only know whats from Eastnders! Fine, make me lose the case but Spidey man will have it on his conscience forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever.

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

"I give up, Your Honour. This woman has driven me out of the legal profession. I resign, you can find another barrister to defend this case."

1/1, you're persistent!

1/1 · **Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:08 pm**

Wahoo! Told you Spideyman was evil. Therefore he should die in the third movie!

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Evil? Explain that, my dear.

Did you see the second movie, where he literally risked his life to stop that train? He expended every bit of energy and power to stop that train. Are those the actions of an evil man?

1/1 · **Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm**

I haven't seen the second movie. Too traumatised

Siege · Commander Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 447

Somehow I have a feeling that Harry will actually become The Hobgoblin, rather than Green Goblin 2, it would be a nice twist. And dear god I want to see Venom in a Spider-Man film!

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John Connor · **Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:06 pm**

I would like to see that and vemon and carnage in the next film cause that would be so cool.

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Venom and Carnage simply belong in a Spider-Man movie. Their origins are intertwined, so not too much screen time would need to be devoted.

Venom's origin would probably require a slight change. As you know, Venom's origin is pretty complicated, tracing it's roots all the way back to the Secret Wars saga where Spidey and the rest of the heroes battled with the villains on some distant planet. There was the whole "alien costume" drama and then Eddie Brock becoming Venom. Too much backstory for a movie but an origin change could get round all that, perhaps giving Venom a more Earthly origin.

Siege · Commander Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 447

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Good post, Siege.

I too don't want to see a rehash of the first movie. I definitely think Harry should modify his own Goblin suit, a superior version to his fathers. Hobgoblin would be the best option.

Siege · Commander Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 447

Yeah I forgot all about The Scorpion, he's a bit generic, but he'd be a decent character in a film. And if they did his tail with CGI him and Spidey could have some awesome battle scenes. Oh what you said about Mary Jane only being used in the movies... Kirsten Dunst has said that she will only appear in Spider-Man 3, and not any subsequent Spidey films. This can be great, because even though Raimi has said he would like to wrap the films up as a trilogy, Avi Arad has stated that both Marvel and Sony Pictures will go as high as five films, don't ask me for a link because I read it on comics2film like a year ago lol. Anyway, Her departure will leave room for a lead female in the film, and I couldn't think of a better replacement than Felicia Hardy/Black Cat.

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Siege · Commander Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 447

I agree with you about Toby's age, I mean I don't really want these movies to become like the Batman franchise, with a different actor every film, because as with Batman, people will always compare the subsequent actors to Toby Maguire, and nobody will be completely satisfied. The movies have done a good job so far staying fairly accurate to the comic books, but since Kirsten Dunst is leaving, we can't really have Peter and MJ married, as they have been in the comics for years. Either that, or they'll marry in the third film, or get together, whatever, and she'll die. Her death could actually set up Venom for the fourth film, because the anger he'll feel over it (if she met her end by the hands of a super villan, anyway) could be a good explanation in Spider-Man 4 as to why the symbiote will be drawn to Peter. I'm kinda getting sidetracked here, but Spider-Man was a character I loved growing up reading comics, I'm actually thinking of getting back into comics next year and start with Spider-Man, probably the Marvel Knights series that began last summer.

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

I keep up with Spider-Man comics. I've been reading them since about the age of 5!

So many great things over the years such as the Secret Wars saga, Spidey gaining cosmic powers, the story "Maximum Carnage" and so much more. Wasn't too keen on the Clone Saga but it had it's moments.

Siege, do you remember the stories from a few years ago where Norman Osborn returned from the 'dead' and also the ones where Spidey gave up his identity and started masquerading as 'new' heroes like The Hornet. They were great, great stories.

I wasn't the biggest fan of Howard Mackie's writing but J. Michael Straczynski's writing is top-notch as far as I'm concerned.

Siege · Commander Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 447

Identity Crisis! Yes, I remember those, just after the Spider-Hunt crossover. I sold most of my comic collection years ago, but I still have the issues of Peter Parker: Spider-Man where Peter became Dusk. Sensation Spider-Man's The Hornet stories were rather humourous, I remember this villan (can't remember his name) breaking into this building, and talking to his weapon, or something. After The Hornet stops him, Hornet is questioned by the press, someone asks "where are you from?" And Peter says something like "From... Erm, I'm from Charlotte!", classic

I honestly enjoyed Howard Mackie's stories in the later part of PP: SM, issue #88 (which set up for the Spider-Hunt) in which Joey Z was found dead, was in my opinion a stellar issue. Unfortunately I don't have it anymore, but it was probably one of my favorite Spider-Man issues of all time.

By the way, speaking of Identity Crisis, i remember Marvel turned the four costumes into a super-hero team under the title "Slingers", I read the first four issues, and I remember Dusk ended up being a chick who came back from the dead or something like that, anyway did you ever read that? I quit after issue 4 and never actually found out how this team was formed, if I remember correctly it was something to do with an old, retired hero (Black Marvel I think it was), but I've always wondered all these years what ever became of this team, what was their origin, etc.

On the subject of Spider-Man though, I think the worst thing they ever did was THe Gathering of Five crossover that ended Sensational and Spectacular, and restarted Amazing and Peter Parker, I lost total interest in the Spider-Man books at that point, because it just seemed like a fiasco to me.

On the subject of J. M. Straczynski, did you ever read his Top Cow title Rising Stars? I remember getting issue #0 from Wizard, then reading the first three issues, but I sort of lost interest in it. It was a decent series from what I remember though.

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Siege · Commander Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 447

Indentity Crisis was all in good fun, each title took a different approach to it. Sensational took a comedic approach, which isn't a surprise because Sensational was always a light hearted title in my opinion, I was sad to see it end, despite the penciler (Mike Weiringo I think his name was...) having a very cartoony style, I think it suited the lighthearted nature of the book, and the writer (can't remember his name anymore, it's been years) handled Spider-Man very well. I think the title ended long before it's time. Anyway, back to the point, Peter Parker: Spider-Man tried to go with a dark, gloomy look to it, which worked well I think. Amazing, I can't really remember, as I disliked the Richochet (sp?) identity. and finally spectacular tried for a more traditional Superman-esque "pure at heart" superhero tale, which worked fine, but Prodigy wore an orangey-yellow costume, which wasn't very appealing to me. As a matter of fact, in the book I mentioned Slingers, they gave Prodigy a red cape and made him more of an angry anti-hero, but he was the leader of the team.

If you haven't noticed I'm getting sidetracked alot, but that's because I haven't really had an indepth Spider-Man discussion, or even a comics discussion, in a long time, so my old opinions are sort of coming back to me.

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

And it's good to talk about Spidey. Thanks for the memories about Identity Crisis, it was a good book.

Sorry to ask but how old are you? Don't answer that if you don't wish. I was just wondering when and at what age you first started reading Spidey. I started reading him when I was about 5 in 1979.