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| Sen. Kerry |
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45% |
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| Undecided |
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| Total Votes : 35 |
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Sevenofninenz
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | Sevenofninenz wrote: | Kerry is a Democrat!!! We like Democrats!!! Kate Mulgrew is a Democrat. Actually:
VOTE: Kate Mulgrew for President!!!!!!! |
Yeah, but did you know that she played a Conservative Councilwoman running for reelection in a couple Cheers episodes? She and Cheers were a couple for a while. |
Actually I did know that! I saw that episode, and I didn't care what she was playing because it was the first time I had seen her play someone other than Janeway. YAy for Kate Mulgrew!!!
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syd2002
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| Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:41 pm |
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I just watched the 9/11 movie directed by Mike Moore............
Intresting facts, this movie is very intresting. Do any of you beleave that this movie plays a role in the views of the voters?
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004
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| Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:58 pm |
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Tonight I'm gonna be watching it, so shoot me now. *Yells at himself* However, I am going to watch FarenHYPE 9/11 afterwards, to counter the lies and propaganda, and distortions and taking out of context, and spinning. Watch that after you watch Moore's movie.
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Hitchhiker
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Joined: 11 Aug 2004
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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| Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:22 pm |
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| syd2002 wrote: | I just watched the 9/11 movie directed by Mike Moore............
Intresting facts, this movie is very intresting. Do any of you beleave that this movie plays a role in the views of the voters? |
Yes. It falls under the realm of propaganda, just as its Farenhype counterpart does. Propaganda is one of the most-used tools in elections. I haven't seen it yet, I'll hold my opinions on the content of the film until I can actually make an informed first-hand opinion.
Edit: Is is just me, or Firefox, or is anyone else having huge formatting issues in this topic? 
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004
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| Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:24 pm |
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| Hitchhiker wrote: | | syd2002 wrote: | I just watched the 9/11 movie directed by Mike Moore............
Intresting facts, this movie is very intresting. Do any of you beleave that this movie plays a role in the views of the voters? |
Yes. It falls under the realm of propaganda, just as its Farenhype counterpart does. Propaganda is one of the most-used tools in elections. I haven't seen it yet, I'll hold my opinions on the content of the film until I can actually make an informed first-hand opinion.
Edit: Is is just me, or Firefox, or is anyone else having huge formatting issues in this topic? |
1. I am having those EXACT SAME ISSUES, and I've got Internet Explorer.
2. Yes, they all fall under propaganda, however what I mean by propaganda is the untruth--the lie, the spin, the slander.
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Jeremy
J's Guy
Joined: 03 Oct 2002
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Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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| Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:03 am |
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I'm having trouble with the formatting as well. There's a huge gap on the left, and then the post is squished into the right?
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:29 am |
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EXACTLY the same with me...Hmm...Odd...
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Thomas
Pool Princess
Joined: 08 Jul 2001
Posts: 19730
Location: Manchester
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| Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:00 pm |
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Hah, I fixed it. Go me.
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sabertooth1217
UPN Boycotter
Joined: 21 Jun 2003
Posts: 11484
Location: Texas
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| Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:25 pm |
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9 Days till the Offical Election in USA
Pres. Bush
52%
52% [ 13 ]
Sen. Kerry
48%
48% [ 12 ]
Independent
0%
0% [ 0 ]
Undecided
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0% [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 25
STV looks pretty Split.
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Birdy
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| Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:31 pm |
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^ Yeah, but I predict Bush will win. Or at least, he will do everything in his power to win. Just like 4 years ago.. Pfff, another 4 years with Bush. 
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:44 pm |
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| Belanna1985 wrote: | | ^ Yeah, but I predict Bush will win. Or at least, he will do everything in his power to win. Just like 4 years ago.. Pfff, another 4 years with Bush. |
WHAT! Do ANYTHING in his power to win, "JUST LIKE 4 YEARS AGO"!!! That is CRAP. That is NOT true. And there is NO factual backing of the race card played back then. NONE OF IT.
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syd2002
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| Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:47 pm |
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Bush won by what 1%?
I remeber is was a pretty close vote, lots of people demanded recounts.
Belanna1985: I tend do agree with you, bush pulled a view tricks to gain that slim win for pres in 2000.
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LightningBoy
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Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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| Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:52 pm |
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| syd2002 wrote: | Bush won by what 1%?
I remeber is was a pretty close vote, lots of people demanded recounts.
Belanna1985: I tend do agree with you, bush pulled a view tricks to gain that slim win for pres in 2000. |
With the electoral system it divides the eletion into states in America. It all came down to florida's points, which Bush officially won by just over 500 votes.
Yes, people demanded recounts. They did 3 different recounts, and every time they found more votes for Bush. Not to mention the fact that 1,000 people illegally voted in both New York and Florida, 80% of whom voted for Al Gore.
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:51 pm |
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| LightningBoy wrote: | | syd2002 wrote: | Bush won by what 1%?
I remeber is was a pretty close vote, lots of people demanded recounts.
Belanna1985: I tend do agree with you, bush pulled a view tricks to gain that slim win for pres in 2000. |
With the electoral system it divides the eletion into states in America. It all came down to florida's points, which Bush officially won by just over 500 votes.
Yes, people demanded recounts. They did 3 different recounts, and every time they found more votes for Bush. Not to mention the fact that 1,000 people illegally voted in both New York and Florida, 80% of whom voted for Al Gore. |
STOP BEATING ME TO THE PUNCH! 
I was going to state just that! 
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EXACTLY, though. EACH recount done went for Bush. And don't give me this "oh, it was because his brother was the governor" crap.
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Arellia
The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Location: Dallas, TX
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| Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:30 pm |
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^Quite. And the governor has nothing to do with the counting, or recounting, of votes. He didn't "steal" the election. (Though, people would argue against the electoral college...did anyone hate it when Clinton won? 'Course not.)
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LightningBoy
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Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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| Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:56 pm |
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The benefit of the electoral system is that it devides votes regionally, as well as by numbers. Regionally people generally have similar opinions, and if one region is heavily populated, I don't think it's right for them to control the fates of lesser populated regions without a fight.
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Birdy
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| Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:24 am |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | Belanna1985 wrote: | | ^ Yeah, but I predict Bush will win. Or at least, he will do everything in his power to win. Just like 4 years ago.. Pfff, another 4 years with Bush. |
WHAT! Do ANYTHING in his power to win, "JUST LIKE 4 YEARS AGO"!!! That is CRAP. That is NOT true. And there is NO factual backing of the race card played back then. NONE OF IT. |
No, I know. But I still believe that I didn't go by the book, I think he 'cheated', to say it childish.
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Birdy
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| Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:25 am |
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| syd2002 wrote: | Bush won by what 1%?
I remeber is was a pretty close vote, lots of people demanded recounts.
Belanna1985: I tend do agree with you, bush pulled a view tricks to gain that slim win for pres in 2000. |
Thank you. At least someone agrees with me 
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:02 pm |
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| Belanna1985 wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: | | Belanna1985 wrote: | | ^ Yeah, but I predict Bush will win. Or at least, he will do everything in his power to win. Just like 4 years ago.. Pfff, another 4 years with Bush. |
WHAT! Do ANYTHING in his power to win, "JUST LIKE 4 YEARS AGO"!!! That is CRAP. That is NOT true. And there is NO factual backing of the race card played back then. NONE OF IT. |
No, I know. But I still believe that I didn't go by the book, I think he 'cheated', to say it childish. |
What evidence do you have that he "cheated?"
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Birdy
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| Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:47 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: |
What evidence do you have that he "cheated?" |
Why can't you just accept my opinion? If you must know, I've read Michael Moore's 'Stupid White Men' and 'Dude, where's my country'.
Maybe you don't consider that as evidence, but I do.
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Link, the Hero of Time
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| Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:33 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: |
What evidence do you have that he "cheated?" |
You mean besides the fact that when "ex-felons" were purged from the list they also removed people with the same name, birthdate and gender? Or the fact that many of the felons purged already had their right to vote returned, or were suposed to as per the law?
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TrekkieMage
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| Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:18 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: |
What evidence do you have that he "cheated?" |
The fact that technically Gore one the popular vote. The fact that votes were literatly lost.
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Arellia
The Quiet One
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| Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:49 pm |
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The popular vote is not the measurement. LightningBoy was correct. Using the popular vote would give high-populous areas WAY too much power. The whole middle of the country could theoretically be IGNORED, which is NOT fair to the people living in small states, such as South Dakota. It's not perfect. There's yet to be a perfect measurement.
Also...anyone remember the 1,000 people from Ney York who illegally voted in Florida, over 800 of which were Democrat? Mm-HM. I'm not saying either side is squeaky-clean. However, I hardly think it's as bad as people would like you to believe. The controversy of the 2000 election was insued because Florida was fair game to argue on (Legally, anyhow)--they didn't have a recount protocol. I shudder to think what's going to happen this time.
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:56 pm |
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| Belanna1985 wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: |
What evidence do you have that he "cheated?" |
Why can't you just accept my opinion? If you must know, I've read Michael Moore's 'Stupid White Men' and 'Dude, where's my country'.
Maybe you don't consider that as evidence, but I do. |
Your opinion needs facts, and there is NO WAY that Moore's stuff is evidence!
| Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: |
What evidence do you have that he "cheated?" |
You mean besides the fact that when "ex-felons" were purged from the list they also removed people with the same name, birthdate and gender? Or the fact that many of the felons purged already had their right to vote returned, or were suposed to as per the law? |
It is ILLEGAL for ex-felons and felons to vote up until a certain amount of time.
| Exalya wrote: | The popular vote is not the measurement. LightningBoy was correct. Using the popular vote would give high-populous areas WAY too much power. The whole middle of the country could theoretically be IGNORED, which is NOT fair to the people living in small states, such as South Dakota. It's not perfect. There's yet to be a perfect measurement.
Also...anyone remember the 1,000 people from Ney York who illegally voted in Florida, over 800 of which were Democrat? Mm-HM. I'm not saying either side is squeaky-clean. However, I hardly think it's as bad as people would like you to believe. The controversy of the 2000 election was insued because Florida was fair game to argue on (Legally, anyhow)--they didn't have a recount protocol. I shudder to think what's going to happen this time. |
Exactly.
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syd2002
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| Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:43 pm |
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I casted my vote, Kerry.
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