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This is proof that Iraq is a complete mess, our own soldiers will not even follow orders any more. |
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This is an understandable incident, and the soldiers should be excused. |
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This is an isolated incident and the soldiers should be disciplined |
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Other |
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No opinion |
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Nate Jameson Lieutenant
Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 144 Location: Michigan, USA
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Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:12 pm |
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If you join the military- you have to follow orders. If you don't- you shouldn't be in the military.
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:27 pm |
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I respect their decision. However, the rules must be held up, and I think that whatever the normal disiplinary action is for this type of thing needs to occur.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:43 pm |
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Nate Jameson wrote: | I believe that this is an isolated incident, and that only those involved should be punished for it. |
EXACTLY.
And btw, Hitch, great job drawing Trek into it!
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Voyager` Rear Admiral
Joined: 22 Aug 2001 Posts: 2579 Location: Iowa
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Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:00 pm |
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they should be disciplined when you join the military you agree to follow orders and do as you are told not refuse and it personally makes me sick if i wish i was there i would have done the mission by myself if i had to
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Jeremy J's Guy
Joined: 03 Oct 2002 Posts: 7823 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:32 am |
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Republican_Man wrote: | Hitchhiker wrote: | Ah, okay. Well, I do have too much spare time on my hands But parallels are better than perpendicular lines, eh.
Otherwise, I'm ambivalent on the subject. I respect what they did, since they used personal judgement and none of us knows what it's like there, but they are in the military, where a high-calibre of discipline and yes, risk-taking, is expected. Meh. |
How could you respect what they did, especially since other troops completed the mission with all good!? |
Em what would you have said if they'd followed out the orders and they had been attacked and killed? I suppose that would have been ok. Say if one of them had been your dad, and after he was killed you found out they had information that said it was really dangerous. Would you have minded?
Also as for the people who say they would have gone and done their duty (this is kinda going back to what Defiant said) - you haven't been in a situation like that and so can't say what you would do. Some of these soldiers may have seen their friends being killed, and having them dying in their hands. And you expect them to just walk in there and do the task when they believe it has a high risk factor?
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