star trek technologies

gamma flyer · Ensign, Junior Grade Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 31

just thought i would ask if anyone has any ideas about how the star trek technologies would work eg how would the matter anitmatter reaction be conatined and what the shells of the warp cores are made of to contain it

Solitary Poet · **Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:21 pm**

I believe this subject belongs in the Trek Tech Forum.

gamma flyer · Ensign, Junior Grade Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 31

sorry its the first one i did i don't know where to put tit can i change it

Five - seveN · **Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:46 pm**

the mods will move it.

Thomas · **Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:01 pm**

So will.

[Moved from GSTD to Star Trek Tech]

gamma flyer · Ensign, Junior Grade Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 31

thanks

EnsignParis · Lieutenant Commander Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257

The containment of matter/antimatter would have to be done in magnetic fields.

Matter, is just, well, matter. Deuterium is what I believe they use (an isotope of hydrogen - very rare on earth). It doesn't need any special containment other than to keep it cool so it doesn't blow up, and in a sealed container, so the gas doesn't go where we don't want it to.

Antimatter, on the other hand is tricky. It has to be contained using magnetic fields because it cannot contact any form of matter whatsoever, as it will obliterate it on contact. Suspending the anti-deuterium (which is what I'm assuming they are using for maximum energy efficency) in a magnetic field is the only way to hold it without actually touching it in the physical sense.

They are partially able to contain hydrogen plasma using magnetic fields, but it is very unstable and not ready to be used on a large scale.

Not that it matters, because we only have enough antimatter to power a lightbulb for 3 seconds, and it would only take a gram of it to power a ship to mars and back.

Read that last part somewhere. Kind of interesting...It was something like "the secrets of the universe" or something.

webtaz99 · **Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:49 pm**

Do you want "cannon" or "real" physics?

m021 · Lieutenant Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 218

Go to www.ditl.org, then to sci-tech, then warp drive.

It will bring you to an enormous piece of text about the Warp Drive, including some pictures.

starnova · **Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:59 pm**

how would they generate a magnetic field that could contain the anti-matter?

webtaz99 · **Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:13 pm**

Superconductors, dude, superconductors.

(They're real, you know.)

starnova · **Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:25 pm**

ya but in basic terms what is a superconductor.

webtaz99 · **Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:10 am**

A superconductor conducts electrical current with almost no resistance; it takes a fraction as much power to create a given magnetic field as a "regular" conductor.

Oliver · **Tue Sep 14, 2004 6:17 am**

webtaz99 · **Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:11 am**

The first superconductors were discovered using liquid hydrogen, and many metals become superconductive at near absolute zero. However, the latest breed of superconducting materials operate around -70C, easily obtainable using liquid nitrogen (which boils around -77C).

Our current understanding of superconductivity involves pairs of electrons which are quantum entangled and move as a single particle. The current theories allow for room-temperature superconductivity, and it is only a matter of time until materials are made which exhibit it.

Given the tremendous capabilities "high temperature" (non-cryogenic) superconductors provide, I suspect the military is farther ahead than the civilian sector in this field.

Five - seveN · **Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:20 am**

webtaz99 · **Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:08 am**

The scientist who runs the lab where the frogs (and other things) were "levitated" also said that with a bigger chamber and more power he could "levitate your grandmother".

gamma flyer · Ensign, Junior Grade Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 31

thanks ensin paris but i do a-level physiscs so i alreay knew that sorryi mean real and teretical physiscs by the way

starnova · **Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:42 am**

thats cool you always see hamtser in labs but never really a frog

Five - seveN · **Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:05 am**

starnova · **Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:27 am**

i thought Quark was more of a rabbit with the big ears.

gamma flyer · Ensign, Junior Grade Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 31

all what u guys are saying is ok but when atnimatter is projuced it is not chaged hence the magnetic fields would not work

lionhead · **Mon May 02, 2005 3:23 pm**

Of course it doesn't work. Thats why its called fiction

m021 · Lieutenant Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 218

I believe it actually does work. The scientific team behind Star Trek made everything so that it would work in theory.

The only problem now is that you would need massive amounts of antimatter to run a spaceship, and they haven't invented yet a way to produce those amounts.

Sonic74205 · **Tue May 03, 2005 11:40 am**

^ Yeah so far they've only created enough anti matter to power a kettle

I like the whole idea of shields and polarized hull plating. Scientists in the real world are actually working on both. Which makes me love that idea even more!

Plus beam weapons. Lazer pistols are now being mass produced and are being integrated into the english & american armys. Also a large prototype laser emmiter has been fittet to the front of a passenger airplane Boeing 747 (I think. well a plane similar to that anyways) They are testing it now. and they hope to begin placing these laser beams on the front of all major passenger aircraft within the next 3 years.

I love the fact that lots of star trek stuff is beciming real. Even though they do actually have researchers and scientists which make the techology and technobable for star trek