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Link, the Hero of Time
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 Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:03 pm |
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GAH!!! WHY THE %$#^ DID THEY SWITCH SHAW FOR HAYDEN!!!
That's just not cool. You dont screw with originals like that.
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Founder
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Location: Gamma Quadrant
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| Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:06 pm |
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| Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | GAH!!! WHY THE %$#^ DID THEY SWITCH SHAW FOR HAYDEN!!!
That's just not cool. You dont screw with originals like that. |
I agree completely. I love the SE but that change was NOT needed.
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The Delta Flyer
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Joined: 08 Apr 2002
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Location: East Yorkshire
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| Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:23 am |
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Some of these changes must be a bit annoying for the original actors. I mean, Shaw doesn't have any massive impact on the film (other than representing Vader's character) but as an actor, very little impact, but regardless, he probably said to his grandkids or whoever, "Look, when I was a bit younger, I was in Star Wars!" and his kids would've been like "Woah! Wow!".
He'd sit down with his grandkids (or whoever) ready to point out his 5 seconds of fame in one of the greatest films ever made, only to discover, what the heck! They'd replaced him with some other guy!
You can imagine the disappointment lol.
You get what I mean lol.
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Superman
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Joined: 06 Dec 2003
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| Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:21 pm |
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What I'm about to say should really be done in another topic (which I think I will soon) but some of your comments raises questions. Should classic movies be tampered with? Should they be left alone? Or should it be done, depending on merit?
There have been occasions where digitally remastering or changing a scene can be of benefit (although I think they are the exception, not the rule). Other times, I hate it such as when a CGI E.T. scene was added in E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial.
No-one tampers with old paintings or sculptures. As films like the Original Trilogy could, by a stretch of the imagination, be referred to as works of art, should we leave them alone and judge them by the standards of the era? What do you think, folks?
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Captain Skyline
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Joined: 09 Aug 2001
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Location: UK
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| Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:54 pm |
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I dont see why people are so offended that they have changed minor things in the trilogy. The changes made havent exactly changed the storyline in any shape or form. Just a few adjustments which mean nothing.
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Superman
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| Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:10 pm |
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To a certain extent, Captain Skyline, I agree with you. But I do think Mr. Lucas should have released the Original Versions as well as the SE's. One benefit to that would be that people could have compared the original's to the SE's and seen if the SE's really were better.
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004
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| Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:14 pm |
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| Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | GAH!!! WHY THE %$#^ DID THEY SWITCH SHAW FOR HAYDEN!!!
That's just not cool. You dont screw with originals like that. |
I agree. The Special Extended Edition was enough.
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Captain Skyline
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| Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:37 am |
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| Starfleet Dentist wrote: | | To a certain extent, Captain Skyline, I agree with you. But I do think Mr. Lucas should have released the Original Versions as well as the SE's. One benefit to that would be that people could have compared the original's to the SE's and seen if the SE's really were better. |
Yeah they should of just included the originals in there too, it wouldnt have taken too much time up.
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Jeremy
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Joined: 03 Oct 2002
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Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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| Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:24 pm |
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Some of those changes look totally rubbish. Jabba looked soooo much better in the original. One or two of the changes are for the better, but the majority aren't. I think that's annoying about Vader being swapped at the end. It doesn't seem right. Not sure when I'll get the box set, don't have spare money at the moment, but might have in a few weeks.
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Founder
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Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Location: Gamma Quadrant
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| Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:31 pm |
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I too am disgusted with the change of Anakin at the end.
| Quote: | | They got rid of Sebastian Shaw and replaced him with Hayden Christensen in the scene with the ghosts in ROTJ. |
Terrible! I love the special editions so if im bitc^^g than you know it must be bad. 
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Republican_Man
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| Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:15 pm |
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| Founder wrote: | I too am disgusted with the change of Anakin at the end.
| Quote: | | They got rid of Sebastian Shaw and replaced him with Hayden Christensen in the scene with the ghosts in ROTJ. |
Terrible! I love the special editions so if im bitc^^g than you know it must be bad. |
Oh for cripes sake! Don't make that change!
Well, I can't WAIT for tomorrow!
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:38 pm |
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I got it! I got it! I'm watching it in 10 minutes! Ooooh yeah! 
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Captain Skyline
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| Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:19 pm |
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Ive got it too!
Im on Return of the Jedi now!
Its great! the quality is soo good! its so clean, its like the films were made last week!
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Founder
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Joined: 21 Jun 2004
Posts: 12755
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| Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:34 pm |
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Ya'll are killing me! Im getting mine tomm.... 
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:36 pm |
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Haven't been able to watch any of the movies yet, with homework, just the documentaries, etc.
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Founder
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| Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:27 am |
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How is the Episode 3 info?
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Founder
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| Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:28 pm |
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I got the DVD today! Finally! Now I must go.... 
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:14 pm |
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Episode III info...Not much, but great!
I've only watched a chunk of A New Hope, but it looks GREAT!
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Jeremy
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Joined: 03 Oct 2002
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| Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:45 pm |
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I got it today, but I was working after school so don't have time to watch it. I think I'll watch a few minutes now, and then go to bed. We don't have school tomorrow so I'll probably watch them all, although I'm working for a few hours.
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tomparis
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Joined: 25 Jun 2001
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| Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:19 pm |
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I plan on getting this tommorow, since it's Friday. Now, I'll have something to do over the weekend.
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