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Dax Orien Helmsman
Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Posts: 856 Location: My own little hell.
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Mon Jun 02, 2003 9:20 am Why does the Voyager Nacelles change position? |
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I was just wondering why on the Voyager the ship's nacelles altered their positions from pure horizantal to slanted.
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PrankishSmart Rear Admiral
Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 4779 Location: Hobart, Australia.
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Mon Jun 02, 2003 9:34 am |
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To prevent damage to subspace is suposedly the tech explanation. Why they were just not in the slanted position all the time in that case is beyond me.
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Mon Jun 02, 2003 11:23 am |
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Yeah, but, how? I mean, they change positions........does it activate a few new commands, and switch from primary systems to warp systems? I'll go check the Daystrom.....
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Dax Orien Helmsman
Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Posts: 856 Location: My own little hell.
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Tue Jun 03, 2003 9:11 am |
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Yeah! See my point though. I really don't know what they do to protect anything. They just seem like a new toy to make it look more like the [/i]Enterprise D
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The Delta Flyer Commodore
Joined: 08 Apr 2002 Posts: 2163 Location: East Yorkshire
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Tue Jun 03, 2003 11:13 am |
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Voyager wasn't put together properly...the "hinges" on the nacelles weren't tight enough and when they went to warp, the speed pushed the nacelles upwards. Once they dropped out of warp they fell down again.
only joking, that wouldn't happen anyway with space being a vaccuum (me thinks). It was supposedly something to do with not damaging subspace or something. And also a new feature to help define a new ship on the part of the creators/producers/you know who I means...
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Dax Orien Helmsman
Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Posts: 856 Location: My own little hell.
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Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:02 am |
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Damaging subspace?
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stv12 Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 337
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Thu Jun 05, 2003 5:03 am |
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Yup. Starfleet said something about normal warp nacelles damaging subspace, polluting if you will. But why the nacelles don't slant forever is beyond me.
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Dax Orien Helmsman
Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Posts: 856 Location: My own little hell.
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Thu Jun 05, 2003 9:03 am |
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I wonder if it makes the ship more maneuverable or something of that nature.
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:50 pm |
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Actually, without knowing all of the technical specs, I can figure somewhat of it out.
Do you guys remember the TNG episode, oh, what was it called, well, it was the episode with the Enterprise in search of a vessel that was lost in a conduit. In this conduit, warp travel was limited, and the Tarellians lined this conduit with mines that disabled your ship. Well, in this episode, the Tarellians showed that "ripples" in subspace were destroying their planet, and in order to prove this, she initiated a warp-core breach, which caused a huge rip in subspace.
Perhaps the new nacelle design was to prevent, or perhaps soften the blow to subspace.
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Tez The Trekker Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 08 Aug 2002 Posts: 79
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Thu Jun 05, 2003 5:36 pm |
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YOUR ALL WRONG
i read the voyager has bending nacells so that they can get in the proper position to create a warp field
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stv12 Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 337
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Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:43 pm |
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I still think it prevents subspace...And look at all theother ships...with out this "Varible Geometry" nacelles as thet call it...they have normal nacelles and still are able to create a warp field.
Quote: | Development of the intrepid class went relatively smoothly in the early and mid stages, but a major problem arose in 2370 with the discovery that the energy emissions of standard warp drives caused considerable cumulative damage to the structure of subspace. Starfleet called for all designs then in progress to be modified to eliminate this effect, and it was decided to use the Intrepid class as a test bed for this technology. After some experimentation it was found that the effect could be avoided by using a warp field with a much elongated Z-axis, combined with complex warp field modulation and the utilization of new materials during the manufacture of warp coils. This has led to the ships saucer section having the forward ellipse now becoming common on Federation designs. The new warp field configuration did lead to a 15% reduction in the speed of the Intrepid class across all flight regimes, bringing the top cruise speed down from Warp 9.99 to Warp 9.975, and the maximum rated speed from Warp 9.992 to Warp 9.985. |
That is taken from that ditl.org site...its speculation, but its the only sensible answer.
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Sat Jun 07, 2003 8:57 pm |
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Tez The Trekker wrote: | YOUR ALL WRONG
i read the voyager has bending nacells so that they can get in the proper position to create a warp field |
1) Buddy, calm down. This is a flame-free area. Very fire-retardent.
2) No, we're not.
3) Your = Implication of ownership, You're = You are.
The nacelles "bend" to create the new warp field to help prevent further damages, or at least lighten the damages to subspace.
Or so we are to understand.
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Captain CB Captain
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 587 Location: U.S.S Retribution
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Sun Jun 08, 2003 2:55 am |
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yes the warp nacelles move so they don't damage subspace. But they dont stay up all the time because it would decrease impulse engine effiecency. (the impulse engines were built into the nacelle pylons to save materials) And they don't stay down all the time because the warp field is not properly formed if anything is inbetween the nacelles
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Hitomi Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 08 Nov 2002 Posts: 274 Location: The Mystic Moon
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Mon Jun 09, 2003 10:51 am |
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^^^
Exactly. In fact, this topic was discussed a while back, to the same conclusion, sorta.
Anyway, You've got it right Captain CB, the impulse engines would not work as well in the tilt position, so they hinged the nacells.
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:34 pm |
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Lt.BirdGod wrote: | Tez The Trekker wrote: | YOUR ALL WRONG
i read the voyager has bending nacells so that they can get in the proper position to create a warp field |
1) Buddy, calm down. This is a flame-free area. Very fire-retardent.
2) No, we're not.
3) Your = Implication of ownership, You're = You are.
The nacelles "bend" to create the new warp field to help prevent further damages, or at least lighten the damages to subspace.
Or so we are to understand. |
ya i agree you should clam down.
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