Bringing in Shatner

Robsladey · **Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:46 am Bringing in Shatner**

Has anyone else read that ENT writers hope to include Shatner in some of the upcoming plotlines. I assume they would have to have him coming from the future....

hdn · Lieutenant Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 163 Location: Sweden

I've heard something like that.

The Delta Flyer · **Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:35 pm**

I heard a rumour that Shatner had admitted Star Trek had lost its way in Enterprise and that he would love to join the show as a means of getting the franchise back to its original status. Can't remember where I read it and have no idea if it is true or not.

Founder · **Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:08 pm**

In what way?

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Shatner has commented on it in certain magazines. He did say that he had a plausible idea for bringing Kirk to the show. Let's hope he shares it.

Incidentally, in Star Trek Magazine (UK version), Shatner expressed an idea months back for a new Trek series. He said he had a great idea but was reluctant to share it because Paramount would own the idea. I would love to know what that idea is.

Ronevick · **Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:25 pm**

I've never heard that, but i'll keep my eye out for it now. Maybe Shatner will reveal his idea sometime soon anyway.

The Delta Flyer · **Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:37 am**

Founder · **Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:25 am**

No I mean will he be a new charecter or like someone suggested as a time jumping kirk.

Ronevick · **Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:33 am**

For once I hope it will be a time travel thing, because Captain Kirk is awesome.

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Zippy · **Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:10 pm**

Kirk is awesome, but he hasnt been Kirk in about 10 years. also, he's too old and fat to be a main character. If he joined in another ST series, i'd give up on all star trek for about 10 years.

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Maybe a fun idea would be to do what DS9 did with Trials and Tribbleations and have Archer and crew go back to Kirk's time. They could do it like the DS9 episode thanks to the wonders of computers.

The only drawback is that it would be seen as ENT using ideas that have already been used. Perhaps it is best that ENT not do gimmicks and continute striking out on it's own. But still, a Kirk appearance would be good for a one-off...

Robsladey · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:39 am**

Poor Shatner...He really wants to stay involved with Star Trek however he can...further movie deals are unlikely so appearing on ENT is all he has left.

Oliver · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:54 am**

^Well, everybody comes and goes. But Captain Kirk will never die. As long as there are Star Trek fans, Kirk is alive. It's like Elvis! He too is still walking among us right?

Anyway, I wouldn't like the idea of Kirk coming on an Enterprise episode. It would really break continuity.

Founder · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:25 am**

I think if Kirk is handled properly then its ok to put him on the show. BUT the show hasnt handled many other things properly so......

sabertooth1217 · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:28 am**

James T. Kirk wasn't born when Archer and the rest of the Crew leave earth. Theres no way to include Kirk unless Daniles does something with the timeline.

Founder · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:33 am**

We know that Kirk is born later. We are talking about using time travel or just have Shatener playing a new charecter, although I think they want him to play Kirk.

CaptJD · Disyple Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 2699 Location: Canada!

Maybe they could do something involving the Nexus? Maybe enterprise could run into it and one of the crew gets caught in ti and meets Kirk? I know he left but so did Guinan and shes still there so why not Kirk? I dunno just and Idea

sabertooth1217 · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:05 pm**

Thomas · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:32 pm**

It's that thing from "Generations" where all your dreams come true, or something,

Picard found Kirk there and convinced him to leave the Nexus and help him defeat Soran.

IntrepidIsMe · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:38 pm**

Mhmmm, and then he died.

Ronevick · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:20 pm**

^Yeah that's right, Kirk left the Nexus and then died in the real world. So how could he be in another episode?

Founder · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:30 pm**

Like someone said before Guinan left it but she was still inside when Picard went in. Maybe its like a shadow thats left behind?

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Involving the Nexus in a Kirk comeback on ENT sounds like a good idea to me.

The Nexus was outside the boundaries of time and space, the idea behind it was never fully explored in Generations.

To bring Kirk back for a one-off on ENT requires a plot that doesn't insult the viewers. Having the Nexus involved in a Kirk meets Archer plot sounds like the most logical option. I would rather have that than Kirk being sent back in time from the TOS era.

At the end of the day, my feelings on Kirk in an ENT episode are the same feelings I had for The Borg in Regeneration. Now, feel free to disagree but my view is that as long as it entertains me, then to hell with the timeline. As long as there is some logic, I don't care if it contradicts the future (or past) timelines.

Founder · **Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:34 pm**