CHIEF O'briens rank

Sonic74205 · **Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:01 pm CHIEF O'briens rank**

How come he is the chief engineer, but he isn't even an ensign?

Zippy · **Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:45 pm**

i have wondered that very same thing! when he was on the enterprise, he was a Lt, but he gets a promotion and gets to be chief engineer, but he calls julian (when they first met) sir, and julian was also a Lt. it baffles me.

Defiant · **Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:01 pm**

Hs rank is chief. It is between Lieutenant Junior Grade and Ensign.

harrykims#1fan · **Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:58 am**

Defiant · **Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:50 pm**

Yes. And he gets to boss Nog around. Until the final episode, when Nog gets promoted to Lieutenant. Then O'Brien says something like "I guess ill have to call you sir now."

CaptJD · Disyple Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 2699 Location: Canada!

Thats cool I never knew that, but now I do

Sonic74205 · **Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:15 pm**

When nog first get accepted into the academy, O'Brien says that when he raduates (becomes and ensign) he will have to call nog "Sir"

Defiant · **Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:55 am**

Hmm...*watches episode*

My mistake! We find out about Nogs promotion while talking to Major Kira, not OBrien.

But im pretty sure im still right...

Sonic74205 · **Fri Jun 18, 2004 5:38 am**

No cuz nog has his custom made uniform on and he walks into Quarks.
Julian & O'brien are playing darts and then O'brien says. hmm it just occurd to me. When he graduates from the academy i'll have to call him Sir.

That was in season 3 - "Facets"

Defiant · **Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:17 pm**

Very well!

My mistake!

Thanks for clearing that up for us. You get a gold star.

Sonic74205 · **Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:11 pm**

Cool

gul Lemek III. · **Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:57 am**

This might clear things up a bit:

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ranks/ratings/ratings.html

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ranks/officers/o-rank.html

Star Trek uses the same rank system as the real navy.

Defiant · **Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:18 am**

Not exactly, im sure. But OK. Weve cleared this matter up, and awarded the gold star. So its all good now.

Sonic74205 · **Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:55 pm**

^
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That didn't help me at all.
This is chief O'briens rank:

And this is the rank of an ensign:

but as i was getting the pips i saw on ditl.org that it meant "chief warrant officer" im not sure if it's true though cuz it wasn't a fact (displayed by the color)

gul Lemek III. · **Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:34 pm**

Maby you should ask the producers

Founder · **Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:56 pm**

His rank is chief petty officer I believe. He is like a non commissioned officer. So any member of Starfleet outranks him, except maybe a cadet.

Zippy · **Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:02 am**

infact, on startrek.com, it says that he enlisted as a non-commissioned officer, which means, that he would have to "salute" anybody who's finished starfleet academy. its like in the military, anybody who finishes an officer's school, if you will, outranks anybody who hasn't finished it yet. here's the website: http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/DS9/character/1112439.html it talks about o'brien and his life, pretty much

Founder · **Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:43 am**

Exactly what I said........

Sonic74205 · **Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:26 am**

ok thanks

Sonic74205 · **Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:39 am**

In season 2 of TNG O'Brien was a Lt

Founder · **Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:04 am**

Really?

Sonic74205 · **Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:32 pm**

yep i watched an episode in season 2 in it and he was a Lt, they must have seriousely screwed up his rank

Defiant · **Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:03 am**

He was a lieutenant when he served as Chief Tactical Officer on the U.S.S. Rutledge, before the Enterprise. When he went to the Enterprise, he went "chief" style. Which yes, is Chief Petty Officer. Kinda stupid, but oh well.

gul Lemek III. · **Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:50 pm**

Well, we all now Star Trek isn't flawless

Robsladey · **Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:41 am**

So would Wesley Crusher outrank him now?