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jbering69
Lieutenant
Joined: 09 Mar 2004
Posts: 137
Location: Canada
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Is it right to sanction the execution of other people for their crimes? I don't propose to know, it is a moral grey area. I believe that most people in the Middle East, Palestinians and Israeli's included, want peace, but so long as each side continues killing each other through terrorist acts, there will be no peace. (There may be those of you who would state that Israeli tactics are non - terrorist, but I would argue that they just have bigger, and better weapons with uniforms).
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Jeremy
J's Guy
Joined: 03 Oct 2002
Posts: 7823
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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| Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:40 am |
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Does anyone else find it suspicious that the Palestinians were rejected by the other Arab countries they tried to go to (this is a while in the past) yet when they get to Israel (whom most Arabs hate, although this is a general comment, not all of them) the Arabs throw their support behind them? If they had let some of the Palestinians into their countries, then yes, it would be ok if they supported them "against" Israel, but as they hadn't then it's abit obvious it's an attempt to make Israel look bad.
Agreeing with other people, Yassar Arafat is totally against peace. A number of times in the past, when there hasn't been much media attention, he has said he would fight Israel down to the last Palestinian. He would willingly wipe out his people to destroy the Israels. Now though, with the "West's" attention on the situation, he is "all for peace". A bit strange, don't you think? The only reason Israel hasn't killed him is because they don't want to make a matyr of him.
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Pah-Wraith
Sheikh
Joined: 30 Nov 2001
Posts: 6012
Location: Londonistan.
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| Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:24 pm |
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| Jeremy wrote: | | Does anyone else find it suspicious that the Palestinians were rejected by the other Arab countries they tried to go to (this is a while in the past) yet when they get to Israel (whom most Arabs hate, although this is a general comment, not all of them) the Arabs throw their support behind them? If they had let some of the Palestinians into their countries, then yes, it would be ok if they supported them "against" Israel, but as they hadn't then it's abit obvious it's an attempt to make Israel look bad. |
Emm No I don't really find it convenient, the Palestinians were thrown out of Israel (which was Originally Palestine) if the Scottish were thrown out of Scotland I'd expect exactly the same attitude 
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004
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Location: Classified
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| Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:18 pm |
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| Pah-Wraith wrote: | | Jeremy wrote: | | Does anyone else find it suspicious that the Palestinians were rejected by the other Arab countries they tried to go to (this is a while in the past) yet when they get to Israel (whom most Arabs hate, although this is a general comment, not all of them) the Arabs throw their support behind them? If they had let some of the Palestinians into their countries, then yes, it would be ok if they supported them "against" Israel, but as they hadn't then it's abit obvious it's an attempt to make Israel look bad. |
Emm No I don't really find it convenient, the Palestinians were thrown out of Israel (which was Originally Palestine) if the Scottish were thrown out of Scotland I'd expect exactly the same attitude |
Just because it was once Paletine doesn't mean they have a right to control it. Then let's go to Russia--there are MANY countries that were once part of that nation, but are they Russian?
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Captain Sulla
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Joined: 18 Apr 2004
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| Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:18 pm |
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Then let's go to Russia--there are MANY countries that were once part of that nation, but are they Russian?
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Most of them weren't originally Russian but now have a Russian background.Russia had a empire lasting around 500 hundred years. Much of Eastern Europe like Yugoslavia, Poland, Romania etc. are of the same bloodline because of it. Though that has nothing to do with whats going on in Palestine.
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Captain Sulla
Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
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| Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:43 pm |
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There are also some middle eastern countries that have Russian bloodlines in them to.
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:51 pm |
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Check this out from 2001 after 911 in Palestine.
http://www.startrekvoyager.com/viewtopic.php?t=1851
It is from this site, shortly after the attack!
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:53 pm |
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^That is just a reminder of what the Palestinians have done for America...
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IntrepidIsMe
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Joined: 14 Jun 2002
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Location: New York
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| Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:17 pm |
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Pffft, you can't really judge the entire country by a select few on TV, As I remember it, they were mostly children, and it's not as if they showed celebrations happening all over the country, they showed a single town, village, whatever it was.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:47 pm |
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If my memory remembers correctly, MANY different places were seen--now I'm not saying that it's MOST of the Palestinians, just MANY of them...
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:26 pm |
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Well, we need to find some proof! (Who, what, when, where)
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