| Should we have NOT gone to war with Iraq? |
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| No; All the evidence pointed towards the need for war |
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jbering69
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Joined: 09 Mar 2004
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Location: Canada
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I think that just about everyone hear has evidence to the contrary about both this or that. Each side has evidence supporting both his or her side. Something to be remembered though is that sources, even those that on the outside appear credible, not always are. It has also become exceedingly apparent that this site is populated by people who strongly oppose the left wing and those who strongly support it. To be honest I find it very refreshing and invigorating. I enjoy reading both sides of the issues as well as adding my own two cents of course.
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001
Posts: 27256
Location: United States of America
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| Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:39 am |
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| Capt.Nero wrote: | | Well Janeway..theres one thing Id like to say..not about Iraq.I was watching today in the popularity polls according to who in the States favours Bush and who doesnt. 60% of americans no longer favour him and disapprove of the hole war thing and 40% are with him.It would be interesting to see what the Anti-Bush Americans feel about the war.Though so far ive only seen pro-bush except for two people Monkey and ILoveHarry....but Monkey keeps on talking about Japan for some reason and ILoveHarry hasnt said much about the war I dont think. |
| Quote: | | According to the latest NEWSWEEK Poll, a majority (57 percent) of Americans still believe that going to war with Iraq was the right thing to do. |
MSNBC.com This weeks issue.
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004
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| Sat Apr 17, 2004 1:38 pm |
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| Capt.Nero wrote: | | U may or may not believe it i was in Iraq...a little while ago..anyways u still havent answered my question |
Okay, then explain this.
WHY, WHEN I WATCH FOX NEWS, DO TROOPS THAT COME ON THE NEWS AND MILITARY ANALYSTS, ETC, SAY THAT THE MEDIA ISN'T REPORTING THE GOOD STUFF? HUH? I'm sorry, but I find it VERY hard to believe that you served in Iraq. Unfortunately I may not know the truth about that, and if you DID, then I'm sorry for saying what I did.
And you, my dear friend, are the one spilling PROPAGANDA.
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Republican_Man
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| Sat Apr 17, 2004 1:41 pm |
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| Capt.Nero wrote: | | Quote: |
but the news media here in the US barely ever reports the positive stuff that has happened in Iraq...
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I also wanted to point out the news agency CNN.I dont know if u know this...but CNN is founded by the US military.I dont know about other news agency but Im sure some others are.Now if these news agencies are founded by the US military and get there propaganda from the US military but yet they are reporting bad things about there own people.Why would they do that to there own people especially if the Army funds them?Something there what u sayed doesnt add up....
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WHAT? CNN is a PRIVATE organization? Where did you get this? CNN has NOT shown ANYTHING good in Iraq from what I've seen, and yet GOOD THINGS, MANY GOOD THINGS, are going on in Iraq. The Military does NOT fund CNN.
And could you PLEASE give some sources, and unless you have sources, don't call everything contrary to your beliefs "Propaganda." Come on. Wise up.
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Republican_Man
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| Sat Apr 17, 2004 1:44 pm |
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| JanewayIsHott wrote: | | CNN is known to be very liberal....and just because the army founded it does not meen that the army controls it. I watch FOX NEWS, its more balanced. |
FOX NEWS is fair and balanced (a TAD on the Republican side, but still gives it's news EQUALLY to BOTH sides) and yet Fox has shown good things in Iraq (a LOT more than all the other news networks), such as jobs being created and businesses being opened, ect. And the incidents in Iraq are NOT that of uprisings. They are of small SECTS of powerful people attacking freedom.
And look at the facts displayed for YEARS. Saddam killed all those Kurds in Iraq, and President Bush has NOT SPUN IT FOR HIS OWN BENEFIT! Please give me sources, SOURCE PLEASE!
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Link, the Hero of Time
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Joined: 15 Sep 2001
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Location: Kokori Forest, Hyrule
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| Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:18 pm |
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most media stations practice one main thing. Selective Information. By informing the public of certain things, but leaving other things out, you can sway the minds of thousands of people.
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charlie
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Joined: 26 Feb 2004
Posts: 598
Location: In The United States
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| Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:48 pm |
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both sides have been strong. but, i was there with 3 ID during the war. i saw the iraqi people celebrate when we ousted saddam. there has been evidence of wmd's but news and official reports don't show them. by the way cnn was started and is run by ted turner. a devout liberal.
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charlie
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| Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:51 pm |
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i supported the war then and in light of the fact that i may be going back soon i still support it more than ever. if we leave now the terrorist would take over and we would have to go back and fight another full scale war. but who knows what catastrofic event they would cause before we made it back.
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charlie
American Soldier
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| Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:56 pm |
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by the way as far as should we have gone just ask me about the mass graves and why no one ran against saddam in the presidential elections.
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Republican_Man
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| Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:41 pm |
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| charlie wrote: | i supported the war then and in light of the fact that i may be going back soon i still support it more than ever. if we leave now the terrorist would take over and we would have to go back and fight another full scale war. but who knows what catastrofic event they would cause before we made it back.
---by the way as far as should we have gone just ask me about the mass graves and why no one ran against saddam in the presidential elections.
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First off, thank you for your service.
Second, I agree with you about how the terrorists will take over.
Third, you make a great point with the mass graves sentence...I don't think that I want to see them, though.
Fourth, please combine, if you may, your short responses in the future (you can click EDIT (in my opinion if it's not too long) to add on your ideas).
Thanks again for your service, and for telling the TRUTH. Or is it "Propaganda?" Let's ask Nero about that...
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Jeremy
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| Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:28 am |
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((There's the slight problem of him being banned.))
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Republican_Man
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| Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:13 pm |
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| Jeremy wrote: | | ((There's the slight problem of him being banned.)) |
((Forgive me, but that might be a good thing...))
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