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Monkey
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why is it okay to call the french "idiotic" but we'd get in trouble to call the US that?
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:18 pm |
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Well, it's a matter of opinion.
I have joined (Bill O'Reilly's) boycott of all things French, just to say.
However, when was France IN TROUBLE for calling Americans "idiotic?"
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Theresa
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| Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:39 pm |
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Pffft, the US and Americans in general are criticized all of the time. And yes, I mean here in WN.
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:40 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | | Pffft, the US and Americans in general are criticized all of the time. And yes, I mean here in WN. |
You know, that is true. Why can't that happen to the French fools?
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Theresa
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| Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:44 pm |
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Subtletly goes a long way, RM. Do I think the French are cowards? Yes. Do I have proof for this? Yes. Just ask, I'll share.
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Republican_Man
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| Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:50 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | | Subtletly goes a long way, RM. Do I think the French are cowards? Yes. Do I have proof for this? Yes. Just ask, I'll share. |
I know that they are cowards and that there is proof of it, but for the sake of the anti-anti-French, please share. Much obliged.
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Theresa
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| Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:54 pm |
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Here's a big one. WWII
And how about Jacques Chirac (sp) sending Saddam high level intelligence until the day the US attacked? Talk about aiding and abetting...
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Republican_Man
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| Theresa wrote: | Here's a big one. WWII
And how about Jacques Chirac (sp) sending Saddam high level intelligence until the day the US attacked? Talk about aiding and abetting... |
Yes, a disgrace. That's why they're idiots.
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Seven of Nine
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| Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:21 am |
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Are the French idiots? Not really.
Is the French president an idiot? In my opinion, yes.
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imzadi76
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| Theresa wrote: | | Subtletly goes a long way, RM. Do I think the French are cowards? Yes. Do I have proof for this? Yes. Just ask, I'll share. |
I'm asking. Give me the dirt!
France wouldn't even fight to keep the Germans out of France!
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Theresa
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| Sat Apr 03, 2004 10:50 pm |
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| Seven of Nine wrote: | Are the French idiots? Not really.
Is the French president an idiot? In my opinion, yes. |
Recent polls show that France is the least popular place for American tourists now. Amusing. And yeah, they are idiots. Not all of them, naturally, but yeah. A country that won't defend itself, calls for help, lets millions of foreigners die for them, and when those foreign countries ask for help, tuck tail and run? Cowards.
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Monkey
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| Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:07 pm |
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so people are going to greenland over france? 
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Theresa
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| Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:32 pm |
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 Yeah, not clever.
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T. Dean
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France is just playing the safest bet. They know their military hasn't been exactly the most useful, they learned that in WWII and places like Rwanda. They know their true might lies in the economic world and international organizations like the UN. They had oil contracts with Saddam Hussein's regime so they used their people's pacifistic tendencies to help them make a case that would insure they kept those contracts. It's not cowardice, it's just business.
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Theresa
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| Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:23 am |
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Sure. Then if they aren't willing to help, they should shut up. And explain to me the French president sending SH top level intelligence right up to the start of the war.
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Republican_Man
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| Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:50 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | | Sure. Then if they aren't willing to help, they should shut up. And explain to me the French president sending SH top level intelligence right up to the start of the war. |
Can ANYONE answer that question?
| Quote: | | A country that won't defend itself, calls for help, lets millions of foreigners die for them, and when those foreign countries ask for help, tuck tail and run? Cowards. |
Once again, a good point, Theresa.
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Captain Dappet
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| Theresa wrote: | | Sure. Then if they aren't willing to help, they should shut up. And explain to me the French president sending SH top level intelligence right up to the start of the war. |
I haven't seen any proof that Chirac sent Hussein Intelligence...I would be glad if you could provide me with some. 
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Theresa
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| Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:37 am |
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It was all over the news. Give me a break. If I say we are at war w/ Iraq, don't be so... pathetic as to ask for a source. It was everywhere.
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Captain Dappet
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| Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:43 am |
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Hm. Weird. I've never heard before you said it...
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Theresa
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| Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:45 am |
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Incredibly. It was all over the media. I remember the front page of the Boston Herald w/ his pic on it. Not nice headline. And it was just in the media again when Laura Bush went to France. The story broke not long after the war started.
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Puck
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Cappy...they have said stuff about it before down here....not much, so I could not give you as many, or any specs like T, but hey, that the media for ya. 
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Republican_Man
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| Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:56 pm |
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It has been COMPLETELY proven that Saddam receive help from the French--it was PROVEN.
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jbering69
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| Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:16 am |
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Y'know calling the French 'cowards' because of the actions of their leader seems an over - generalization. Canada did not get involved in the current war, so it would seem that Canadians must be cowards too? I think that labelling all French cowards is negative stereotyping and that is a road that none of us should follow.
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Republican_Man
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| Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:12 pm |
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| jbering69 wrote: | | Y'know calling the French 'cowards' because of the actions of their leader seems an over - generalization. Canada did not get involved in the current war, so it would seem that Canadians must be cowards too? I think that labelling all French cowards is negative stereotyping and that is a road that none of us should follow. |
I disagree, and Canada has HARDLY ANY military, so it is somewhat understandable that they didn't participate.
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jbering69
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| Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:11 pm |
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Again I must disagree. Everyone on this board has seen anti - American sentiments from time to time, is it inconceivable that the majority of these are based on over - generalizations? I should think so. I have met many stupid people in my lifetime and am pleased to say that ignorance and stupidity is an international phenomenon.
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