Bush, 3 million people in american lost jobs

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

Adding to Lightning Boy:

Not only did the terrorist attacks, make just about every ecomnomic aspect of the U.S. plumet, you can not forget the Enron and WorldCom scandals. Finally, it is a fact, the econemy had out-grown itself, companies were huge, making huge profits, expanding like never before. It is impossible for an econemy to continue on like that. Everything in nature seems to follow the basic rule, what goes up, must come down (not necessarily in that sense, or literally, but you understand what I am saying. Sooner or later, it was necessary for this to happen. Now, we are getting past this, and are starting to grow again.

Los · **Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:41 pm Re: Bush, 3 million people in american lost jobs**

Chakotay,
you're a baffoon.

Seriously, you're *beep* riding on democratic rhetoric that's been awash since the beginning of time. Do you seriously think Bush has any real control over who can get employed and who doesn't? Did it ever occur to you that the market is regulated by consumer spending? Buying and selling stocks? Manufactures make money by selling a product. Corporations make money by selling services. Businesses need money to generate more money, hire more people, and give back to the investors.

First thing. Clinton left at the beginning of the dotcom collapse and backlash. How important was the dotcom/silicon valley area? So important infact that the Nasdaq lost nearly forty percent of its earnings it had peaked in 98-99. How accurate is the Nasdaq composite? 90% of stocks listed in the Nasdaq are tech related. Companies like Microsoft, Sun, etc, are listed in Nasdaq.

Second thing. Basic economics is a roller coaster. You have a few up years, you have a few down years. We're always going to have a cycle of ups and downs. When you put blame on a president or one person for it, you look like an ass. The Democrats do it because it caters to the people who don't have time to think about it. These are lower middle class to poor people who have nothing to look forward to, only empty promises by candidates and prominent citizens of the country. If you're going to dig up information about a president and his faults, at least do it in a non-biased site, like CNN.com or something.

Third thing. 9/11 was a horrible thing. Thankfully, it hasn't been repeated. But again, no one could've done anything different or better than Bush. 9/11 wasn't the actual cause of the massive job losses. But it was a catalyst in an already unstable market. Days before 9/11, speculators were already predicting a lower than usual third quarter report from many companies (some 60% of US companies use Jan. 1st as the beginning of the fiscal year) and job cuts were already in the making. 9/11 shook investors confidence and, like the Great Depression some 70 years before, the market came crashing down. Enron and Worldcom didn't help the matter, but they're hardly a big reason why the market took a crap like it did.

Fourth thing. Clinton was impeached. He wasn't removed from office.

Finally, if you're still going to harp about how Bush is an idiot, look in the mirror. At least he has a college degree and a bit more understanding about how things work over your comical ass.

Kyre · Commodore Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263

A college degree? A president must surely know what he's doing with one of those right?

Right?

Los · **Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:01 pm**

Right.

Theresa · **Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:04 pm**

Out of that entire post the only thing you find to go after is the college degree? Huh. Must've been some great points made, then.

Kyre · Commodore Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263

Right.

And whilst my simple question may be no match for your omnipresent political maelstrom of an argument, I still would like you to take your soapbox elsewhere.

Flexing your muscles infront of juveniles is a futile exercise, although I'm sure they'd love you on Question Time.

Los · **Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:14 pm**

You should be the first to speak.

Theresa · **Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:19 pm**

Political debate is allowed in WN. If you bring up a point, be prepared to have it dissected. I've made that clear for ages in here. C99 understood that when he posted here. Everyone is allowed to post their views. I don't care how old they are. If you feel you can defend your point, go for it. If you want everyone to agree with you, don't come in here.

Kyre · Commodore Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263

There's a difference between disagreeing with someone, and insulting someone. In my opinion both you and Los have made personal attacks on C99.

Perhaps the source of the graph was insufficient to back up the argument, but it certainly didn't merit the responses from you two.

Los · **Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:55 pm**

I know I deliberately degraded him. At least this way, he'll listen to what's being said instead of the typical in one ear and out the other.

Thank you Captain obvious.

IntrepidIsMe · **Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:15 pm**

So you admit you were rude? That's on odd way to get someone to listen to you. Call them names and then seem to want them to respect your opinion.

Theresa · **Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:28 pm**

Kyre · Commodore Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263

Theresa · **Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:45 am**

Kyre · Commodore Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263

Well to be honest I don't think you've proven anything other than what we already knew. That the source for the graph wasn't an indifferent site, and some anti-bush thing.

And as for being C99's big brother, well it is a public forum, and it is my opinion, and it is not breaking the rules.

I also see no response to Los's admission.

Los · **Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:17 pm**

IntrepidIsMe · **Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:24 pm**

Oh, well that makes it the right thing to do, I suppose......

Theresa · **Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:47 pm**

Theresa · **Sun Feb 15, 2004 12:59 pm**