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Lindley
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Here's the best picture I can find. Sisko's ship is the one on the left.
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Los
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Ooooo...
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Hitomi
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| Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:09 pm |
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| Lindley wrote: | Here's the best picture I can find. Sisko's ship is the one on the left.
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That looks more like a soyuz class than a miranda.
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Captain Michael Pike
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| Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:17 pm |
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That's because the Soyuz class is a Miranda class variant and this is not the best picture....
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thegame
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| Wed Mar 26, 2003 6:18 pm |
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According to the Star Trek: Encyclopedia, both the USS Saratoga, NCC-1937, seen in Star Trek IV and the USS Saratoga, NCC-31911, seen in "Emisarry" from DS9 are both Miranda class vessles. It's odd, because, as mentioned above, the Sisko Saratoga looks to be the Soyuz class varient that is also mentioned and pictured in the same Encyclopedia. Perhaps it is a misprint.
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Hitomi
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In addition to that, all the soyuz class ships were retired around 2288, far before the wolf 359 battle. So, if the encyclopedia is misprinted, and it is a soyuz, why the heck is it still in service?
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datalore3
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it is comfusing tho thats all i know
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The Delta Flyer
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| Hitomi wrote: | | In addition to that, all the soyuz class ships were retired around 2288, far before the wolf 359 battle. So, if the encyclopedia is misprinted, and it is a soyuz, why the heck is it still in service? |
Perhaps it is a Miranda-class but just had the "roll-bar" removed.
As for the Encycloapedia, there are some errors in it. For example, it says that the Cousteau (Captain's Yacht) in Insurrection was destroyed when in actual fact, it was only damaged.
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PrankishSmart
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^I have read different. I have seen that apparently the captains yacht was destroyed, data needed to make an emergency transport to the surface, but they deleted this scene from the movie.
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The Delta Flyer
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| Thu Jun 12, 2003 7:05 am |
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OOOOo right, well in that case ignore my post lol - the encylcopaedia mightn't have any errors in.
That would have made a good scene in the film...it would've been good if it had been included on the DVD or something.
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Interstelar_Concordium_CM
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| Hitomi wrote: | | In addition to that, all the soyuz class ships were retired around 2288, far before the wolf 359 battle. So, if the encyclopedia is misprinted, and it is a soyuz, why the heck is it still in service? |
True, the soyuz was retired, but Starfleet mobilized allm the ships it could and there were probably a few in spacedock or in a ship graveyar so its likely that they werwe activated to help defend a wolf 359,
P.S. that ship in the pic looks more like a federation police frigate
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sabertooth1217
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| Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:29 pm |
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| Oompsty wrote: | | ^Wasn't that at wolf359? |
what is worf359?
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Lindley
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| Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:39 pm |
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| Chakotay99 wrote: | | Oompsty wrote: | | ^Wasn't that at wolf359? |
what is worf359? |
Sounds like a username. (j/k)
He meant Wolf 359.
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Interstelar_Concordium_CM
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| Tue Jun 24, 2003 7:40 am |
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Wolf 359 is a planetary system where the federation sent a majority of the fleet to defend against the first borg attack. It was a total defeat for the federation, they lost 39 ships of a fleet of 40.
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Lindley
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| Tue Jun 24, 2003 9:32 am |
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^The Klingons also lost a number of ships there. The Wolf 359 star system is about 10 LY from Sol, if I'm remembering correctly.
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captain_muller0770
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I thought it was a nebula class 
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CaptJD
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CaptJD
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commanderbj
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| Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:02 pm DS9 |
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sisko's ship is awosme!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Sonic74205
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| Mon Feb 02, 2004 5:04 pm |
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im not sure but i think it might be a seratoga class. and there is usually a ship with the same name of its class... hand on a minute ill go check on DS9...
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Sonic74205
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| Mon Feb 02, 2004 5:11 pm |
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yep, it was the seratoga class... the miranda class has the role bar but the seratoga doesn't
i do have one other thing to add... ive found a flaw in that beggining scene on emissary.
The Glalaxy class was the only class that had civillians on board but the seratoga did and that would just never happen especially with the seratoga being such a small ship. I think it should have been thought about in more detail. 
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Knuckles
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| ensign forest wrote: | yep, it was the seratoga class... the miranda class has the role bar but the seratoga doesn't
i do have one other thing to add... ive found a flaw in that beggining scene on emissary.
The Glalaxy class was the only class that had civillians on board but the seratoga did and that would just never happen especially with the seratoga being such a small ship. I think it should have been thought about in more detail. |
the rollbar removal dosent change the class of ship, the rollbar is an optional weapons platform that was attached on, just like the nebula class ships "pod's", the soyuz class ships are totally redesigned and specialized mirandas, which is why they have a new class named after them.
the galaxy class isnt the only class that has civillians on it, most longterm science ships probably had family on them, which was what the saratoga was.
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