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Curtis
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| 1Jer wrote: | | It could be oil, but remember America only gets about 20% of its oil from the middle east. I think it was a number of reasons, some of them good like freeing the people. Some of the other reasons might not have been so good, but you'll prob. never find the real reasons. |
Yes, it could be Oil, but that is highly doubted. I feel the main reason behind this war is to free people and you probably will never know the real reason...I agree on that.
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Thomas
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| Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:07 am |
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| jbi507 wrote: | | and chocho_11 how do u know if they were making weapons, along with how do u know they ppl really hated him? u dont, u just get your info from wat the news says? therefore you are a muppet. (lol, no offense) |
Prove me wrong, instead of coming back with these "How do you know...?" arguments. We do know how badly Saddam was treating the people of Iraq, so explain to me how they could fail to hate him for that.
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jbi507
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| Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:44 pm |
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whatever man, i dont care no more, think what ever u want. think saddam had sooooo much money to make the weapons, think that bush and blair were acting out of good faith.
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Theresa
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| Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:34 pm |
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Yeah, poor Saddam, and poor, poor Osama,  Do your homework.
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Link, the Hero of Time
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| Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:18 am |
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^Hey T, nice sig. They'll roll over Boston like they usually do. 
| jbi507 wrote: | | whatever man, i dont care no more, think what ever u want. think saddam had sooooo much money to make the weapons, think that bush and blair were acting out of good faith. |
You're quite the Pessimist aren't you? You can think what YOU want, because we have TRUE PROVEN FACTS on our side.
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Jeff Miller
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| Wed Oct 08, 2003 1:15 am |
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ok let me clear this up Im the most evil person  everyone hates me and everyone wants me dead or atleast dying of the bubonic plague lol
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Theresa
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| Wed Oct 08, 2003 5:43 pm |
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| Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | ^Hey T, nice sig. They'll roll over Boston like they usually do.
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Remember 1918? Be ready to replace it with 2003,
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Apparently controlling a country, and it's oil, doesn't pay as much as one would think...
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Link, the Hero of Time
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| Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:04 pm |
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sure.... believe what you want 
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Theresa
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| Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:10 pm |
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I shall do my utmost,
To stay OT, uhhh, Osama sucks,
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Jeremy
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| Sat Oct 11, 2003 7:05 am |
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Both points of the argument have got facts for and against. Its up to the individual to deside what they believe. Saddam was hated, but so far no weapons have been found. With that before you its up to you to decide what reason the coalition went in - for money or human rights.
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Jeremy
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Both points of the argument have got facts for and against. Its up to the individual to deside what they believe. Saddam was hated, but so far no weapons have been found. With that before you its up to you to decide what reason the coalition went in - for money or human rights.
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Theresa
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| Sat Oct 11, 2003 9:49 am |
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^Actually, no, Someone else made mine. The words just aren't in it yet.
| Quote: | New Report Discloses Dozens of Weapons of Mass Destruction Program Activities in Iraq
According to the Wall Street Journal a new report shows that Saddam Hussein had "dozens of WMD-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during the inspections that began in late 2002." The Wall Street Journal makes note of the findings to rebut other media reports that say the latest inspections by U.S. inspector, David Kay have unearthed no new information in his short, three month search.
The revelations about Hussein's weapons of terror include a prison laboratory complex "possibly used in human testing of BW agents" in addition to strains of biological organisms that could be used as weapons, reports the Journal. The assignment has also served to spotlight Saddam's success in deceiving the United Nations and the world as to the state of his weapons programs.
The Wall Street Journal concludes by saying, "Even if no stockpiles are ever found, the Kay report provides ample proof of Saddam's WMD threat and how much safer the world is with him out of power."
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Sat Oct 11, 2003 10:38 am |
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^Clearly, I've never understood why people say things such as "They haven't found any proof" I mean, if he was still in power, he'd be making them (WMD) currently or soon. We are better off without him in power, and so are the Iraqi people.
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Jeremy
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| Sat Oct 11, 2003 12:01 pm |
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Yes, I agree, but the reasons might not be the ones that the coalition went in. The problem is that it could cause a rush for nuclear weapons as North Vietnam is thought to have nukes, and western countries won't attack in case they use them.
((Sorry about the double post before - it wasn't working I though, and I quickly desided to change a bit, so the time was long enough away.))
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Link, the Hero of Time
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| Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:41 pm |
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We don't attack North Vietnam Because We know they have nukes and they have a leader crazy enough to use them. And since South Vietnam was our ally once, we try to talk North Vietnam into disarming the nukes because on more then one occasion North Vietnam has threatened to nuke South Vietnam.
But knowing Bush and other countries in the Firing range of the Nukes. The first sign of disarmament and we're going in to make sure They're never going to threaten people with them again.
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sabertooth1217
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there should be no such thing as nukes. period.
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Mac Harm
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| Tue Oct 14, 2003 4:47 am |
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It depends on your point of view.
But i hate anyone who kills or injures just one person.
(i hope noone here has)
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Jeremy
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| Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:23 am |
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It would be a perfect world if no nukes were needed. Unfortuntly that won't happen.  The "goodies" then need nukes to protect themselves from the bad people who have them.
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Paris10
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| Fri May 07, 2004 10:13 pm |
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Do any of you think Donald Rumsfield should resign from the Defense Dept. after not telling Bush about the prisoner abuse? I don't think so...
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Puck
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| Fri May 07, 2004 10:58 pm |
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/\ I think this should possibly have been its own new topic.....but to answer your question, yes, I would love if he resigned..... 
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Monkey
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yea i know that i'm late but i'm going to post my oppinon of the worst ppls.
(and i am calculating these by how many innocent lives they were responsible for killinng or worngfully opressing. And from my own viwes.)
1) Hitler
2) FDR
3) Oda Nobunaga
4) Saddam
hmm..... thats all i can think right now
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Theresa
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| Sat May 08, 2004 10:34 am |
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FDR... Care to elaborate?
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Puck
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| Sat May 08, 2004 12:01 pm |
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FDR!?!? I am confused. Are we talking about Mr. Roosevelt?
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Link, the Hero of Time
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I do believe he's talking about how FDR dropped the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Sat May 08, 2004 4:36 pm |
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That's pretty silly. The use of those bombs saved thousands of lives.
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