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lord_picard Captain
Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 713
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Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:05 pm entiprise theme butcherd |
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what happend to the entiprise theme this season, i mean i dident like it to begin with but then they jazzed it up and now it sounds worce
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CaptJD Disyple
Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 2699 Location: Canada!
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Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:28 pm |
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well...what can ya do to a crappy theme song anyway besides change it
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:49 pm |
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I kind of like it
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jbi507 Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 254 Location: DS9
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Tue Sep 23, 2003 10:13 am |
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what do they still have some guy singing to it?
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Lindley Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Posts: 6194 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Tue Sep 23, 2003 10:35 am |
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I'm of mixed feelings.
On its own, I prefer the new theme to the old one.
However, the new theme is totally inappropriate to the show this season. They're trying to make the show darker; so what do they do? Make the theme lighter and peppier.
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lord_picard Captain
Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 713
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Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:32 pm |
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next time you listen to the new theme song, listen to the new part that is added and only to that part, for the first 15 seconds it sounds like that original startrek style, and its a good one, i think they should stay with that.
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thegame Captain
Joined: 11 Sep 2002 Posts: 752 Location: Buffalo, New York
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Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:09 pm |
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I like both, new one is better.
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Deciviel Captain
Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 508 Location: Joe's Garage
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Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:21 am |
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I don't care what everybody else says-I like the theme. The old one was cool, and the new one is too. As for it being inappropriate for this season, I tend to disagree. Yes, the show has taken on a darker, more serious tone. However, the new upbeat theme (as well as the lyrics) are a reminder that even with all this going on, the human spirit cannot be hindered or broken ("no one's gonna bend or break me"), and that no matter how bleak the future may seem at the moment in Enterprise, there's always a ray of hope present, and that this is just another obstacle to be overcome.
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GhostOfAMemory Star-crossed Voyager
Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 4322 Location: My computer... duh
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Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:28 am |
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I LOVED the theme music! That song RAWKS. I sing along to it everytime I watch enterprise... and then they go and, yes, BUTCHER it! Ugh, that rhythm is soooooo stupid for that song. I like the end guitar part, but that's it. Ugh ugh ugh they need to change it back, it was PERFECT the way it was before. Grrrrrrrrrrrr @ people who changed music
I think the theme is perfect for the show. It's a song about standing up and doing what you know is right, no matter who tries to stop you or crush you. It's about pushing on through criticism. It's about coming of age, and proving wrong all those who said you couldn't do it. Exactly what the crew of enterprise are doing.
It's been a long road, gettin from there to here
It's been a long time, but my time is finally near
I will see my dream come alive at last, I will touch the sky
And they're not gunna hold me down no more, no they're not gunna change my mind
Coz I've got faith, of the heart
Goin' where the heart will take me
I've got faith to believe, I can do anything
I've got strength of the soul, and no one's gunna bend or break me
I can reach any star
I've got faith
I've got faith, faith of the heart
Now tell me that's not appropriate for enterprise.
YOU CAN'T!!!!! Nyeah. Coz if u do ur lying.
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The Delta Flyer Commodore
Joined: 08 Apr 2002 Posts: 2163 Location: East Yorkshire
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Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:57 pm |
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I think it would be better if they changed the theme every season to reflect the theme of each season. That way, people who don't like the current theme won't have to tolerate it for the length of the entire series.
I think Babylon 5 did that and that worked pretty well...the music got better and better throughout the series IMO...
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Arellia The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 4425 Location: Dallas, TX
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Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:23 pm |
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I liked the theme song, myself. It's rather uplifting. I'd rather they'd left it alone, but that's just me...
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ussvoyagerncc74656 Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 30 Dec 2002 Posts: 121 Location: The Delta Quadernt
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:04 am |
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i still stick with the origonal thats the best
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The Delta Flyer Commodore
Joined: 08 Apr 2002 Posts: 2163 Location: East Yorkshire
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 9:37 am |
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I thought that you said in another topic that you hadn't heard the new theme yet? :
ussvoyagerncc74656 wrote: | well im in the uk and aint got sky so i have 2 watch on chanel 4 and tere only halfway throught the second series so i aint herd the theme to the 3rd |
http://www.startrekvoyager.com/viewtopic.php?t=13539
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Krhoal Freshman Cadet
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 7 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:33 am |
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and I.
First time in history of Star Trek where THEY decided to change the song.
At the request of whom ?
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GhostOfAMemory Star-crossed Voyager
Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 4322 Location: My computer... duh
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 2:46 pm |
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We need to protest and get them to change the song back to the way it was before. Paint signs and stand outside of their offices or whatever... haha
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Gondor Girl Princess of Ithilien
Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 3966 Location: Henneth Anun, Ithilien
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:23 pm |
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I like it the way it is now better than it way it was before. The end of it is better. However, I think that if they would switch it with the song that plays during the credits, which is more star trekkie, then everything would be perfect.
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Krhoal Freshman Cadet
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 7 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:32 pm |
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The theme was to much on the emotional side before, now it's to musical and is not ST alike. Chosing, I will prefere the one before.
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The Delta Flyer Commodore
Joined: 08 Apr 2002 Posts: 2163 Location: East Yorkshire
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:03 pm |
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I think the theme needs to be darker.
Take "Shockwave, Part One" for example. At the end you got a sense of doom, that everything has been destroyed, yadda yadda, the "To Be Continued" flashes on-screen and then what do you get? The nice happy friendly theme playing away...for me that kinda got rid of the tension lol.
I noticed that in tonight's Channel 4 episode "The Seventh", the music seemed almost similar to Voyager's music in "Scorpion" but just rejigged a little. Not the theme itself but parts of the theme...like when archer, T'Pol and Mayweather are looking for the criminal guy...
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lord_picard Captain
Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 713
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Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:13 pm |
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The Delta Flyer wrote: | I think the theme needs to be darker.
Take "Shockwave, Part One" for example. At the end you got a sense of doom, that everything has been destroyed, yadda yadda, the "To Be Continued" flashes on-screen and then what do you get? The nice happy friendly theme playing away...for me that kinda got rid of the tension lol.
I noticed that in tonight's Channel 4 episode "The Seventh", the music seemed almost similar to Voyager's music in "Scorpion" but just rejigged a little. Not the theme itself but parts of the theme...like when archer, T'Pol and Mayweather are looking for the criminal guy... |
thats exactly what it needs, to match the settings of the story. since the enterprise is in the expance (which is a dark place) they must have a dark theme song
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Alpha_One Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 34 Location: U.S.S. ENTERPRISE NCC-1701-E (deck 6, section 5, next to park place and bordwalk)
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Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:00 pm |
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i at first hated the enterprise theme song, but then i found myself singing along and i listined to the lyercs.... and you know what just as GhostOfAMemory said a few posts ago it is perfect for the show, the lyrecs coniside with the content of enterprise and its perfect! BUT......... THE NEW BEAT SUX!!!!!!! THEY MESSED WITH A GOOD THING!!!! ..... but hey as long as they keep the same song and not butcher it anymore il be happy! il be much happyer if they bring back the old one tho
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GhostOfAMemory Star-crossed Voyager
Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 4322 Location: My computer... duh
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Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:08 am |
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Alpha_One wrote: | i at first hated the enterprise theme song, but then i found myself singing along and i listined to the lyercs.... and you know what just as GhostOfAMemory said a few posts ago it is perfect for the show, the lyrecs coniside with the content of enterprise and its perfect! BUT......... THE NEW BEAT SUX!!!!!!! THEY MESSED WITH A GOOD THING!!!! ..... but hey as long as they keep the same song and not butcher it anymore il be happy! il be much happyer if they bring back the old one tho |
TOTALLY!!! I went and downloaded the whole song and they have the nice pretty music that was more like the original theme and I was just thinking "Dang, that STUPID RHYTHM does NOT belong in this song!" The end guitar part is cool, but not worth the butchered majority of it! Ugh ugh ugh... whoever changed it is an idiot. The theme was PERFECT! I've always loved it... ugh. At least I have my mp3 of the song the way it SHOULD be... poo
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The Delta Flyer Commodore
Joined: 08 Apr 2002 Posts: 2163 Location: East Yorkshire
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Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:39 pm |
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I wasn't too keen on the theme originally but I liked the generic music in the episode...
...so I went out and bought the soundtrack lol.
The "Faith of the Heart" on the soundtrack is longer than the one on the series; I think it's a bit better as it changes a bit in the middle...I could almost like it lol
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GhostOfAMemory Star-crossed Voyager
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Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:48 pm |
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May I just ask WHY a lot of people have a problem with the theme?? I love it... I downloaded the MP3... I fell in love with that song the first time I heard it. And the introduction rocks too. I love all the different enterprises, and how they show how humanity has progressed and changed over the years... it also goes perfectly with the song and the MAIN theme of the show. To get out there, be the first to break the boundries, to truly go where no one has gone before. To prove everyone who thought you couldn't do it wrong. To finally say "I've waited long enough... I'm ready!" to push through everything that tries to hold you back and say... I AM TRIUMPHANT!
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The Delta Flyer Commodore
Joined: 08 Apr 2002 Posts: 2163 Location: East Yorkshire
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Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:32 am |
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Yeah but (again I use the same example) at the end of Shockwave, they weren't triumphant and so the happy bouncy theme deflated alot of the tension.
It's like having a massive action film/disaster film which ends with the theme "I'm a little teapot short and stout"...or something like that...Yes I'm exagerating but only to prove my point...
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gigapixel Crewman
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 3
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Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:50 pm |
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I've always HATED THAT THEME! Don't get me wrong - it's not that I have anything against using a pop song, or that sci fi can only have John Williams type orchestral music with it. It's just that IT is such a lame, 80s-Bryan Ferry rip off. I never even noticed that they changed it this season, cause I always mute/fast foward.
It's a shame the song SUCKS, 'cause the visuals/graphics are outstanding.
Here's what you do to improve it. Take out your First Contact CD. Cue up song 12 to about 23 seconds in. As soon as the tease fades to black, hit play. Presto! New, improved opening for Enterprise!
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