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Oompsty Vice Admiral
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Mon Dec 30, 2002 9:20 am If the series continued... |
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How do you think they would bring the crew back together? It would be tough IMHO to do that while making it entertaining.
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Lindley Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Posts: 6194 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Mon Dec 30, 2002 10:54 am |
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Well, they don't really need to. In TV, cast changes frequently spell the doom of a show, but somehow they've managed it in the DS9 relaunch books.
If there were a continuation of the show on-screen, I'd actually prefer they base it around those characters. Maybe have one or two returns, like Worf and O'Brien, but there's no need to bring everyone back.
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Pah-Wraith Sheikh
Joined: 30 Nov 2001 Posts: 6012 Location: Londonistan.
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Mon Dec 30, 2002 12:14 pm |
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Hmm I sort of Agree with Lindley there, I wouldn't want a complete reunion of ds9 characters, the avatar relaunch has done a good job of bringing back the ds9 crew. I think it would be unpractical if Odo returned, ds9 is of Diplomatic importance and worf could come back say if there are ds9 films as an ambassador. However I just wouldn't see ds9 in the same light if Benjamin Laffayatte Sisko didn't return
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Oompsty Vice Admiral
Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 6613 Location: LA
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Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:25 am |
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So how exactly did the book bring the crew back together?
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But it's like love or hate, now is that real or fake?
Cause it's a real thin line, but that's your choice to make.
The question at hand, help me understand, is this your plan?
I think I can, can I think, then I think I can.
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Pah-Wraith Sheikh
Joined: 30 Nov 2001 Posts: 6012 Location: Londonistan.
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Sun Jan 05, 2003 4:45 am |
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It Ddin't really bring back the crew, it showed you the space station deep space nine 3 months after WYLB and introduced Ro Laren as Odo's Bajoran Militia Security replacement aswell as a Variety of New character including Commander Elias Vaughn (Sisko's starfleet replacement), Jem'Hadar observer sent by Odo Kitana'klan and also the new Science officer Ensign Thirishar Ch'thane (Shar).
I do recommend you read these books as the do actually make a ds9 relaunch in potential films sound good.
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thegame Captain
Joined: 11 Sep 2002 Posts: 752 Location: Buffalo, New York
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Sun Jan 05, 2003 12:29 pm |
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Just remember that none of the re-launch books are canon and "if" a movie was ever made, none of what happened in the Avatar books or Mission: Gamma books will have happened necessarily.
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Lindley Vice Admiral
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Sun Jan 05, 2003 1:42 pm |
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^The majority of fans who've read the relaunch seem to have decided to give it quasi-canon status, much like the Star Wars novels. That's not official, of course, but it'll do.
In any case, one little correction: the Jem'Hadar observer is Taran'atar.
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thegame Captain
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Mon Jan 06, 2003 4:13 pm |
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I take all Trek books for what they are: Not truley Canon. "Cloak" establishes the active prescence of section 31 during Kirk's time. "Ashes of Eden" sees the destruction of the E-A. The Avatar Books see Ro back on DS9. All of these plot twists are nice, and I enjoyed reading them, but none of it will make it into the next volume of the Star Trek: Encyclopedia. That's just how it is. There will be no Elias Vaughn mentioned when I read the "V" section.
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Lindley Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Posts: 6194 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Mon Jan 06, 2003 7:12 pm |
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^What I mean by Quasi-canon is that it creates its own level of canon. The references on the level of the show, like the encyclopedia, are "above" that level----and thus don't include it.
However, a number of books not directly tied to the relaunch have begun referencing it, which means that its pretty much canon as far as future novels are concerned. Kinda like the Star Wars books. See what I mean now?
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thegame Captain
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Mon Jan 06, 2003 11:44 pm |
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Cool with me.
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Tue Jan 07, 2003 4:33 am |
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If the series stayed on longer I think it would be better than Voyager
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Oompsty Vice Admiral
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Tue Jan 07, 2003 6:45 am |
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Yah, it would have been interesting to say none the less. They could have stretched out the dominion war a little but not by much or you are just playing the same thing over and over. Perhaps a borg vs federation thing because of Voyager wussyfying the borg in Endgame.
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But it's like love or hate, now is that real or fake?
Cause it's a real thin line, but that's your choice to make.
The question at hand, help me understand, is this your plan?
I think I can, can I think, then I think I can.
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Tyvek Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Jul 2001 Posts: 2821 Location: Mississippi, USA
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Sat Jan 11, 2003 1:20 am |
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humm not all books are non-canon "mosaic" and "pathways" are canon granted they are voy.
DS9 was really good but if there is a movie they will find a way to reunite all the crew
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Lindley Vice Admiral
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Sat Jan 11, 2003 1:28 am |
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^Actually, they were de-canonized after Jeri Taylor left the show. I think there were even a few contradictions against them in one of the last couple seasons.
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voyagerlr Commodore
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Tue Jan 14, 2003 7:29 am |
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it would be rubbish
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Lindley Vice Admiral
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Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:05 am |
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voyagerlr wrote: | it would be rubbish |
And here I was hoping that such trollish remarks were something of the past for this forum. Ah, well. Perhaps you would care to elaborate a bit? Its hard to rebut an unsupported statement.
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Oompsty Vice Admiral
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Tue Jan 14, 2003 6:09 pm |
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voyagerlr wrote: | it would be rubbish |
Well at least it was better then the mindless droning of Voyager which killed Q and wussyfied the borg practicly mutilated two of star trek finest characters.
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But it's like love or hate, now is that real or fake?
Cause it's a real thin line, but that's your choice to make.
The question at hand, help me understand, is this your plan?
I think I can, can I think, then I think I can.
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Pah-Wraith Sheikh
Joined: 30 Nov 2001 Posts: 6012 Location: Londonistan.
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Wed Jan 15, 2003 8:12 am |
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Lindley wrote: | ^The majority of fans who've read the relaunch seem to have decided to give it quasi-canon status, much like the Star Wars novels. That's not official, of course, but it'll do.
In any case, one little correction: the Jem'Hadar observer is Taran'atar. |
hmm Oh yeah thats right the observer is Taran'atar, where did I get kitana'klan from
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voyagerlr Commodore
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Wed Jan 15, 2003 10:15 am |
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look all i meant was a DS9 series would be rubbish never mind a film god i mean boring
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Lindley Vice Admiral
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Wed Jan 15, 2003 10:38 am |
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voyagerlr wrote: | look all i meant was a DS9 series would be rubbish never mind a film god i mean boring |
And I mean, why?
There *was* a series. Lasted seven years. Excellent, very entertaining. Why would continuing it have been any different?
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Achilles Commodore
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 7:42 pm |
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Continuing DS9 would be a good idea on screen but I wouldn't really want it to be any different to the books cause I've become used to those as the continuation. There are plenty of potential storylines for DS9, whether it be in the books, or onscreen.
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Oompsty Vice Admiral
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Tue Jan 21, 2003 3:47 am |
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voyagerlr wrote: | look all i meant was a DS9 series would be rubbish never mind a film god i mean boring |
Says you. It wouldn't be a bad idea to continue it and the Relaunch books already give the writers a basic outline as to what's going to happen...i see no concrete evidence to back your claims.
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But it's like love or hate, now is that real or fake?
Cause it's a real thin line, but that's your choice to make.
The question at hand, help me understand, is this your plan?
I think I can, can I think, then I think I can.
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captain_muller0770 Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 23 Aug 2003 Posts: 96 Location: USS Sovereign(bridge)
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Sat Aug 23, 2003 2:13 pm |
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they should continue the season and bring the crew back together and bring Sisko back
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