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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Thu Apr 24, 2003 3:24 pm How old is guinan? |
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I saw Star Trek: Generations again (thats like the 50th time ive seen it ) and I noticed something. How old is Guinan? I dont quite remember the date on the bottle, it was something like, 2263. So, lets assume that I happen to be right, and that 2263 is the time period. That means the Borg destroyed their homeworld at this date (which doesn't quite end all of the doubts I've read about, like, Captain Picard created the Borg race through a time parradox, but still).
And we know that Guinan had visited Earth even before that (Episode Reference: TNG/Time's Arrow, Pts 1 & 2). And TNG takes place in the 24th century, so wouldn't that make her, at the least, 600 years old?
The sick man in Time's Arrow said "Help out a 49'er. Which makes it any time beyond 1849. Lets just go with 1850. What is the date through which TNG takes place, i know its in the 24th century, but thats a wide margin.
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Melodramatic Rear Admiral
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 4577
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Thu Apr 24, 2003 6:01 pm |
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I think she could be 47
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Thu Apr 24, 2003 7:52 pm |
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Not Whoopi Goldberg, Guinan. The El Aurian, the loveable bartender, the counselor's counselor.
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harrykims#1fan Fan Girl Muskateer
Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Posts: 2916 Location: Leicester UK
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Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:49 am |
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apparently she's about 800
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PrankishSmart Rear Admiral
Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 4779 Location: Hobart, Australia.
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Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:06 pm |
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Well I have heard that she is between 300 - 400 years old, and lives for 800 years. TNG takes place from 2363-2370.
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Marina Sirtis Lieutenant
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 138 Location: I am in a room, with lights.
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Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:13 pm |
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Maybe she is 900000000000.oooooooo
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1/1 Rear Admiral
Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 3311 Location: La La Land
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Sun Apr 27, 2003 2:27 pm |
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^^^that's alot of 00's
I heard that she was 800 but now I've read this I'm not too sure
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Marina Sirtis Lieutenant
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 138 Location: I am in a room, with lights.
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Sun May 04, 2003 11:50 am |
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Well, she is ancient thats all I know.
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Sat May 10, 2003 7:20 pm |
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LOL
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John Luck Picard Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 13 Jul 2001 Posts: 262
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Sat May 10, 2003 7:54 pm |
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the only thing we know is she is at least 500, though i imagine not too much older. If you remember in the episode "Time's Arrow", Guinan greets Data with, "did my parents send you". This making an implication that perhaps Guinan is somewhat young to be worrying about her parents sending someone to see her.
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shrek man Whiz Kid
Joined: 14 Jan 2002 Posts: 5519
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Mon May 19, 2003 12:37 pm |
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Marina Sirtis wrote: | Maybe she is 900000000000.oooooooo |
Not that old. She was about 50 or so,I think.
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PrankishSmart Rear Admiral
Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 4779 Location: Hobart, Australia.
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Mon May 19, 2003 11:43 pm |
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Yep, the actor is about 50ish
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Wed May 21, 2003 2:54 pm |
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NOT WHOOPI GOLDBERG, GUINAN!!! THE EL AURIAN!!!!
Whopi Goldberg != Guinan, hmmm, and yet, Whoopi Goldberg == Guinan.
A paradox....
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startrekgirltng Black Belt Woman
Joined: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 604 Location: The USS Enterprise NCC 1701 E bridge or my ready room
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Wed May 21, 2003 4:56 pm |
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She is Maybe 830
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shrek man Whiz Kid
Joined: 14 Jan 2002 Posts: 5519
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Wed May 21, 2003 5:08 pm |
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PrankishSmart wrote: | Yep, the actor is about 50ish |
She is in real life?
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datalore3 Lieutenant
Joined: 30 May 2003 Posts: 211 Location: Home home on the range......
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Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:34 pm |
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Well she is old enuf to know better
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Morphy Forum Ogre
Joined: 15 Jun 2001 Posts: 3858
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Thu Jun 05, 2003 11:43 pm |
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I'm not sure if I said this before, but the character Guinan was a big mistake for the Star Trek franchise.
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Captain Michael Pike Captain
Joined: 14 Jul 2001 Posts: 597 Location: PA
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Thu Jun 05, 2003 11:51 pm |
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According to the Star Trek Encyclopedia (always have that handy), Guinan was probably born sometime in the 19th century. That would make her somewhere around/over 500 years old.
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PicardsTrueLove Commodore
Joined: 26 Dec 2002 Posts: 1840 Location: Nowhere, Earth
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Fri Jun 06, 2003 5:35 am |
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Morphy wrote: | I'm not sure if I said this before, but the character Guinan was a big mistake for the Star Trek franchise. |
Why do you say that? I really liked her. I thought she added a nice touch to the ship and the show. She reminded the audience that you didn't have to be an action hero to really influence the course of history.
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MrsPicard Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 28 May 2003 Posts: 242 Location: U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-E, Deck 9, Room 3601
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Fri Jun 06, 2003 5:37 am |
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I liked Guinan, too and I was sad that she only appeared for a short time in Nemesis...
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~Voyager Fan~ Captain's Assistant
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 83 Location: On board voyager assisting the captain
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:36 pm |
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shes about 500 yrs old
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Voyager2004 Commodore
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2070 Location: Silverdale, WA
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:08 pm |
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Yep^^^Or possibly older. Because she was alive when Mark Twain was, but she could also have already have been REALLY old then as well, so we really don't know. But we do know that she is about that old.
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blueskin Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 38
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:05 pm |
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In character or real life She's just smells old
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Voyager2004 Commodore
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2070 Location: Silverdale, WA
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:09 pm |
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So, you mean to tell me you've met the all fictional character "Guinan" and she smells old? whatever
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John Connor Admiral of the Terran Empire
Joined: 07 Sep 2002 Posts: 15657 Location: I.S.S Emperor
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Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:54 pm |
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I think shes definatly over 1000 years old. I would imagine.
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