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PostThu Apr 24, 2003 3:24 pm    How old is guinan?

I saw Star Trek: Generations again (thats like the 50th time ive seen it ) and I noticed something. How old is Guinan? I dont quite remember the date on the bottle, it was something like, 2263. So, lets assume that I happen to be right, and that 2263 is the time period. That means the Borg destroyed their homeworld at this date (which doesn't quite end all of the doubts I've read about, like, Captain Picard created the Borg race through a time parradox, but still).

And we know that Guinan had visited Earth even before that (Episode Reference: TNG/Time's Arrow, Pts 1 & 2). And TNG takes place in the 24th century, so wouldn't that make her, at the least, 600 years old?

The sick man in Time's Arrow said "Help out a 49'er. Which makes it any time beyond 1849. Lets just go with 1850. What is the date through which TNG takes place, i know its in the 24th century, but thats a wide margin.


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PostThu Apr 24, 2003 6:01 pm    

I think she could be 47

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PostThu Apr 24, 2003 7:52 pm    

Not Whoopi Goldberg, Guinan. The El Aurian, the loveable bartender, the counselor's counselor.

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PostFri Apr 25, 2003 11:49 am    

apparently she's about 800

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PostFri Apr 25, 2003 11:06 pm    

Well I have heard that she is between 300 - 400 years old, and lives for 800 years. TNG takes place from 2363-2370.

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PostSat Apr 26, 2003 7:13 pm    

Maybe she is 900000000000.oooooooo

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PostSun Apr 27, 2003 2:27 pm    

^^^that's alot of 00's

I heard that she was 800 but now I've read this I'm not too sure


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PostSun May 04, 2003 11:50 am    

Well, she is ancient thats all I know.

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PostSat May 10, 2003 7:20 pm    

LOL



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PostSat May 10, 2003 7:54 pm    

the only thing we know is she is at least 500, though i imagine not too much older. If you remember in the episode "Time's Arrow", Guinan greets Data with, "did my parents send you". This making an implication that perhaps Guinan is somewhat young to be worrying about her parents sending someone to see her.


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PostMon May 19, 2003 12:37 pm    

Marina Sirtis wrote:
Maybe she is 900000000000.oooooooo


Not that old. She was about 50 or so,I think.


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PostMon May 19, 2003 11:43 pm    

Yep, the actor is about 50ish

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PostWed May 21, 2003 2:54 pm    

NOT WHOOPI GOLDBERG, GUINAN!!! THE EL AURIAN!!!!


Whopi Goldberg != Guinan, hmmm, and yet, Whoopi Goldberg == Guinan.

A paradox....


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PostWed May 21, 2003 4:56 pm    

She is Maybe 830

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PostWed May 21, 2003 5:08 pm    

PrankishSmart wrote:
Yep, the actor is about 50ish


She is in real life?


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PostThu Jun 05, 2003 8:34 pm    

Well she is old enuf to know better


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PostThu Jun 05, 2003 11:43 pm    

I'm not sure if I said this before, but the character Guinan was a big mistake for the Star Trek franchise.

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PostThu Jun 05, 2003 11:51 pm    

According to the Star Trek Encyclopedia (always have that handy), Guinan was probably born sometime in the 19th century. That would make her somewhere around/over 500 years old.

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PostFri Jun 06, 2003 5:35 am    

Morphy wrote:
I'm not sure if I said this before, but the character Guinan was a big mistake for the Star Trek franchise.


Why do you say that? I really liked her. I thought she added a nice touch to the ship and the show. She reminded the audience that you didn't have to be an action hero to really influence the course of history.


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PostFri Jun 06, 2003 5:37 am    

I liked Guinan, too and I was sad that she only appeared for a short time in Nemesis...


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PostMon Dec 05, 2005 9:36 pm    

shes about 500 yrs old


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PostTue Dec 06, 2005 1:08 pm    

Yep^^^Or possibly older. Because she was alive when Mark Twain was, but she could also have already have been REALLY old then as well, so we really don't know. But we do know that she is about that old.


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PostTue Dec 06, 2005 10:05 pm    

In character or real life She's just smells old

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PostTue Dec 06, 2005 11:09 pm    

So, you mean to tell me you've met the all fictional character "Guinan" and she smells old? whatever


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PostMon Dec 26, 2005 5:54 pm    

I think shes definatly over 1000 years old. I would imagine.

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