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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 27256 Location: United States of America
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Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:04 am Freedom: How much are you willing to pay? |
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From what I read here, there's alot of people who love freedom, but aren't willing to sacrifice anything for it. Americans, do you remember what the colors in your flag stand for? Do you know how many died so you can live like you are today? Somehow, I doubt it. Freedom is a privilege, not a right.
What do you beleive in strongly enough that you would die for it?
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Vortex Squeak Attack
Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Posts: 7170 Location: The Edge
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Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:06 am |
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Something we get for free we don't appreciate. We only realise afterwards, what it is we have lost.
Didn't the roman empire fall because of the same reasons?
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
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Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:09 am |
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Exactly. They became complacent in their freedom. They stopped watching their borders, started saying *war was never necessary, we are above such things, there has to be a diplomatic way out*. Not realizing that both sides needed to want peace.
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Vortex Squeak Attack
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Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:12 am |
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Yes, they too ignored all the signs of the approaching armies. Who could beat Rome?
WWII
The Dutch thought Germany wouldn't invade Holland. We had a german prince, so why would they? And they too didn't bother for the army to be raised.
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 27256 Location: United States of America
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Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:30 am |
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Also WWII
The French needed more proof of a German invasion. German tanks rolling down the street were finally enough proof, but much too late.
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Vortex Squeak Attack
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Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:38 am |
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LOL!!!! how true that was.............
Now they want proof.....a nuke on paris?
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Seven of Nine Sammie's Mammy
Joined: 16 Jun 2001 Posts: 7871 Location: North East England
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Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:08 pm |
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Yeah... don't you love the French for their ignorance?
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
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Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:23 pm |
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Seven of Nine wrote: | Yeah... don't you love the French for their ignorance? |
<~~~isn't even going to touch that!
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LightningBoy Commodore
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 1446 Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:32 pm |
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The U.S. was the ignorant one of that end of the deal... We thought the French were friends, we were wrong.
I love Freedom. I love Ameirca, and i'll be damned if I ever give it up without a fight!
"LightningBoy - Proud member of the American militia."
If time comes we ever get invaded. I'll be walking the street with my sidearm, and I'll be ready to die. Even though I know I won't lose, because I'll have every faithful American behind me, and we the people of America are invincible as a united force.
Treasonists and Traitors like Sean Penn, Barbara Streisand, and Jesse Jackson would soon go into hiding in their lap of luxury than fight for anything.
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Captain Dappet Forum Revolutionist
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 16756 Location: On my supersonic rocket ship.
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Sun Mar 16, 2003 11:29 am |
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I wont die for nothin'. Not even freedom. Life's sumthin' important that shouldnt jus' thrown away because ya believe in sumthin'.
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
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Sun Mar 16, 2003 1:22 pm |
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If someone gave you the choice. You die, or we kill your parents. It's up to you. Do you not even love them enough to die for them?
And life w/out freedom is no life at all, IMO.
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Zeke Zabertini Captain
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Sun Mar 16, 2003 2:55 pm |
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If someone asked me that there'd be about a 70/30 chance that I'd tell them to kill me.
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
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Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:08 pm |
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Today, my Mother and I stopped to get some sandwiches for lunch. While we were sitting outside, a bus full of soldiers pulled up. I made her stay so I could watch them, you know, men in uniform, So we're sitting there watching, and I suddenly realized what was going on. All of these guys were being deployed, and were just stopping for lunch for their long ride ahead. You sit there, and look at these men, and realize that they do beleive there are some things worth dying for. They are on their way to fight for me. For every American. Do you realize how humbling that is? I am so thankful that there are people who do beleive that there are some things worth fighting, even dying for.
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:27 pm |
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hey if we can kick some A## Im all for it besides Sadam needs to have his butt kicked so I say WAR
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
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Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:29 pm |
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You won't be so quick to say war if your drafted. War isn't the point. War can be a necessity, but isn't something we should want.
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:31 pm |
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hey give me a gun and I would be willing to go over there and if we don't take him out now he'll just get us in the future
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Seven of Nine Sammie's Mammy
Joined: 16 Jun 2001 Posts: 7871 Location: North East England
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Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:38 pm |
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As most of you already know, I'm willing to die anyway
Yeah, I'd die for freedom... better that than because I can't cope
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Los Commodore
Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 1336 Location: Oklahoma fa sho!
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Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:47 pm |
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Ben Franklin said 'Those who would sacrifice freedom for safety deserves neither...'
I agree.
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tom_88_2 Commodore
Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 1561 Location: United States
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Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:26 pm |
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LightningBoy wrote: | The U.S. was the ignorant one of that end of the deal... We thought the French were friends, we were wrong.
I love Freedom. I love Ameirca, and i'll be damned if I ever give it up without a fight!
"LightningBoy - Proud member of the American militia."
If time comes we ever get invaded. I'll be walking the street with my sidearm, and I'll be ready to die. Even though I know I won't lose, because I'll have every faithful American behind me, and we the people of America are invincible as a united force.
Treasonists and Traitors like Sean Penn, Barbara Streisand, and Jesse Jackson would soon go into hiding in their lap of luxury than fight for anything. |
You are right
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Los Commodore
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Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:12 am |
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LightningBoy wrote: | The U.S. was the ignorant one of that end of the deal... We thought the French were friends, we were wrong.
I love Freedom. I love Ameirca, and i'll be damned if I ever give it up without a fight!
"LightningBoy - Proud member of the American militia."
If time comes we ever get invaded. I'll be walking the street with my sidearm, and I'll be ready to die. Even though I know I won't lose, because I'll have every faithful American behind me, and we the people of America are invincible as a united force.
Treasonists and Traitors like Sean Penn, Barbara Streisand, and Jesse Jackson would soon go into hiding in their lap of luxury than fight for anything. |
Explain to me why they are treasonous.
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Captain Dappet Forum Revolutionist
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 16756 Location: On my supersonic rocket ship.
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Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:14 pm |
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"A man does not die for something he does not believe in"
-Adolf Hitler
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
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Tue Mar 18, 2003 3:26 pm |
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^Yeah, I'd aspire to quote Hitler, too.
Good thing that there are others willing to die for your freedom.
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Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 8715 Location: between chaos and melody
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Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:12 pm |
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i would be willing to die to ensure that the next generation of americans would be free and independent like i am
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Praetor The Architek
Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Posts: 4810 Location: Somewhere I possibly couldn't go...
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Tue Mar 18, 2003 8:18 pm |
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If your governement approved conscription would you people still be saying what you are? I mean think about it, hard, you are forced to leave everything here and probobly go and die. For your country and for freedom yes but would you be willing to give up everything?
Personally I think war is defiantly not the answer but we also can't sit here and do nothing. I'm kind of on the fence of what to do. If I was made to go and fight in a war, this war, which is highly doubtful, of course I would be scared crapless but I would go knowing that God is with me and my family and that I am fighting for a cause.
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Tue Mar 18, 2003 8:22 pm |
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yes i will still be saying what i have just said
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