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voyagerlr Commodore
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 5:36 pm Too advanced? |
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personally i feel that the NX is too advanced in some ways i know it must have been hard going back in time but they could have made it more realistic no wonder the rating suck!
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whanomylee Freshman Cadet
Joined: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 8 Location: PA
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 7:44 pm |
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I don't think it is advanced enough. Look at where we are today in technology and without a doubt we will be far more advanced than NX-01 is in 150 years. It is more advanced than TOS in some ways, but never forget that was the sixties. As far as the ratings go, nothing on UPN orWB is ever that high in the ratings, Enterprise is still one of UPN's top rated shows.
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Achilles Commodore
Joined: 12 Nov 2002 Posts: 1718 Location: Flibdor
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:04 pm |
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I see no problem with their technology levels ....... if you compare it with modern times and TOS you'll see it fits in very well.
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eclipse8472 Captain
Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Posts: 863 Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:15 pm |
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doesn't bother me
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Zeke Zabertini Captain
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:46 pm |
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I think it's all good, but what's up with them not having automatic doors?
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Lindley Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Posts: 6194 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:17 pm |
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^Yeah, automatic doors is one place they messed up.
They *are* too advanced, though. They shouldn't have phase weapons-----TOS's "The Cage" established that Captain Pike (immediately before Kirk) was still using laser weapons.
While their chemical torpedoes are fine, its been established that the Romulan War was fought mostly with nukes, so lets hope they pick up a supply at some point.
They should not have encountered any holotechnology at this point, but they have. They should not have encountered the Ferengi at this point, but they have. They should not have encountered replicator technology at this point, but they have. And most of all, the Romulans should not have cloaking technology at this point.
Yes, I know, you can make excuses for each of those if you try hard enough. Its all explainable if you put your mind to it. But the point is, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT. B&B set ENT in the 22nd century in order to tell new stories; why, then, do they keep bringing in 24th century technology? There's plenty of stories to tell without it; some of them would even be more interesting without it.
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Zeke Zabertini Captain
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:24 pm |
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I like 24th century tech. Anyway.
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Lindley Vice Admiral
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:34 pm |
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My point is, if they wanted to use 24th century tech, they should have done another series in the 24th century.......
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Zeke Zabertini Captain
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:39 pm |
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Right; I get it, just commenting.
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janewaykat Vice Admiral
Joined: 14 May 2002 Posts: 5780 Location: Basketball court and college
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:39 pm |
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^ true it probably would have worked better.
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Oompsty Vice Admiral
Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 6613 Location: LA
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Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:12 am Re: Too advanced? |
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voyagerlr wrote: | personally i feel that the NX is too advanced in some ways i know it must have been hard going back in time but they could have made it more realistic no wonder the rating suck! |
Well, i don't think it is even though it looks advanced, but you have to realise they aren't going to the ship in a bottle thing like they did with TOS.
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voyagerlr Commodore
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PrankishSmart Rear Admiral
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Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:12 pm |
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Well it is just because TOS was made in the 60's, that is all. I bet that paramount could create a newer looking constitution class to look more advanced than the nx but less advanced than 24th century ships.
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janewaykat Vice Admiral
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Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:44 pm |
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they probabllly just didn't think of that
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@Chuckles Rear Admiral
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Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:55 am |
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oh well let's do the best with what we have....it's better than no trek at all
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Oompsty Vice Admiral
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janewaykat wrote: | they probabllly just didn't think of that |
No, it's because the constution class came after the founding of the federation.
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The question at hand, help me understand, is this your plan?
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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nah I think its just right
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Zeke Zabertini Captain
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Tue Jan 14, 2003 6:54 am |
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I must agree with 7. It's definately better than no trek at all.
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voyagerlr Commodore
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Tue Jan 14, 2003 7:09 am |
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i must agree enterprise is better than no trek at all.
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Tue Jan 14, 2003 6:25 pm Re: Too advanced? |
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voyagerlr wrote: | personally i feel that the NX is too advanced in some ways i know it must have been hard going back in time but they could have made it more realistic no wonder the rating suck! |
Not really that advanced because it's not as big as the other ships.
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voyagerlr Commodore
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Wed Jan 15, 2003 9:15 am |
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not as big but technology wise, i mean the weapons c'mon thier far too advanced for that time period!
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The Delta Flyer Commodore
Joined: 08 Apr 2002 Posts: 2163 Location: East Yorkshire
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Wed Jan 15, 2003 1:12 pm |
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Lol, Enterprise is my favourite series lol although I agree about the doors...I didn't think it would be very good when I first heard about it but now it's my fave lol.
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voyagerlr Commodore
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Wed Jan 15, 2003 1:31 pm |
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its ok here the order for me though:
VOY
TNG
ENT
DS9
OS
AS
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Tyvek Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Jul 2001 Posts: 2821 Location: Mississippi, USA
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Wed Jan 15, 2003 4:34 pm |
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Enterprise is Great, Although some technology is more advanced than TOS, but if you think about it maybe the Romulan War set us back as far as technology like WWIII may have. AS far as another 24th Century Show NO MORE TNG ERA it is getting old maybe a new 25 or 26th century show OR even A Movie era show.
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Lindley Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Posts: 6194 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:58 pm |
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voyagerlr wrote: | its ok here the order for me though:
VOY
TNG
ENT
DS9
OS
AS |
Hmm. I'd put them like
DS9 :8
VOY
TNG
TOS
ENT (I want to like it. I just can't.)
TAS (Never seen it)
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