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Cmdr. Data
Lieutenant
Joined: 28 Mar 2002
Posts: 162
Location: Excelsior-B
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 Wed Jun 19, 2002 6:29 pm Lt. Commander, Commander |
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If you have the rank of Lt. Commander, you will still be referred as Commander.
Why? Is it just because it takes too much time or what?
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MT39503
Commodore
Joined: 10 Apr 2002
Posts: 1437
Location: AZ
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| Wed Jun 19, 2002 6:54 pm |
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No Idea. Good Question though...
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Maverick
Captain
Joined: 30 Oct 2001
Posts: 510
Location: A place far away
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| Wed Jun 19, 2002 9:20 pm |
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Its a short way of saying it.
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MT39503
Commodore
Joined: 10 Apr 2002
Posts: 1437
Location: AZ
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| Wed Jun 19, 2002 9:59 pm |
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| Maverick wrote: | | Its a short way of saying it. |
This would be the logical conclusion... 
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Cmdr. Data
Lieutenant
Joined: 28 Mar 2002
Posts: 162
Location: Excelsior-B
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| Thu Jun 20, 2002 7:47 am |
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| Maverick wrote: | | Its a short way of saying it. |
Thats what I thought as well. But I was not certain.
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Commander Ranahan
Doctor
Joined: 11 Oct 2001
Posts: 9519
Location: Guam
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| Thu Jun 20, 2002 7:57 am |
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its just a shorter way of saying it..........You know like a LT Jr. Grade well just be called Lt
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Cmdr. Data
Lieutenant
Joined: 28 Mar 2002
Posts: 162
Location: Excelsior-B
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| Thu Jun 20, 2002 7:59 am |
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Yeah. Thats what I thought.
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Commander Ranahan
Doctor
Joined: 11 Oct 2001
Posts: 9519
Location: Guam
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| Thu Jun 20, 2002 8:08 am |
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When worf was promoted to Lt. Cmdr Picard started calling Commander so thats A safe asumption
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Voy_Girl
Admiral
Joined: 07 Jan 2002
Posts: 8302
Location: Fair Haven
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| Thu Jun 20, 2002 8:30 am |
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It would be kinda hard to say: Fire the torpedoes immediatly Lieutenant Commander *********!
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IntrepedII
Captain
Joined: 21 Jun 2002
Posts: 1476
Location: Belgium
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| Sat Jun 22, 2002 6:14 am |
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yep just shorter
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Captain Dappet
Forum Revolutionist
Joined: 06 Feb 2002
Posts: 16756
Location: On my supersonic rocket ship.
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| Sat Jun 22, 2002 6:23 am |
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Thats an order, Lt. Commander.....
LOL 
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IntrepedII
Captain
Joined: 21 Jun 2002
Posts: 1476
Location: Belgium
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| Sat Jun 22, 2002 12:29 pm |
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yes sir luitenant comander sir , hmm i mean m'am 
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The Hunter
Commodore
Joined: 31 Jul 2002
Posts: 1010
Location: Second Officer-Deep Space 10
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| Fri Aug 02, 2002 3:33 pm |
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ya thats doessund kind of funny LOL
they uually only say a lt. commnders full rank if they ar introducing them
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Commander Ranahan
Doctor
Joined: 11 Oct 2001
Posts: 9519
Location: Guam
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| Sat Aug 03, 2002 12:46 am |
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Yeah so it is kinda funny
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Borg771
Commodore
Joined: 08 Aug 2002
Posts: 1706
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| Wed Aug 14, 2002 6:43 pm |
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yeah its an abreviation.
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Manual6speed
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Posts: 87
Location: L3X18999
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| Sun Aug 18, 2002 2:08 am |
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Here is another idea, full title is obvious for introduction, but is not needed for commands because of using persons name, Worf or Cmd Worf, and yes it is shorter. The only time I could see full title when giving commands is if you have two officers of different rank in the same area with the same name, primarily with temperal incursions (a person either jumps ahead or back in time when he/she is a different rank).
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PhionexAlpha
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Joined: 31 May 2002
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| Sun Aug 18, 2002 2:18 am |
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yeah that works to.its basically the same as wut evryone else is saying.in a way.
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Manual6speed
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Posts: 87
Location: L3X18999
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| Sun Aug 18, 2002 3:45 am |
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true, just wanted to put my ideas on the board
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Hull Breach
Lieutenant
Joined: 28 May 2002
Posts: 152
Location: Bedford, N.S., Canada
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| Mon Aug 26, 2002 5:54 pm |
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heh that is weird
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Bugger Boy
Commodore
Joined: 31 Aug 2002
Posts: 1402
Location: U.S.S Soveriegn
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| Sat Aug 31, 2002 3:57 pm Chain of command |
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I know (or at least i think i know) that the chain of command up to admiral is:
Cadet
Ensign
Lieutenant
Lieutenant Commander
Commander
Captain
(okay i don't know what comes next)
Commodore
Rear-Admiral
Admiral
I've often wondered though, what would it be like to be the president of the Federation.
That must be cool.
Must be like being prez of the U.S only 1000 times better.
I'll just be quiet now...
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Bugger Boy
Commodore
Joined: 31 Aug 2002
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Location: U.S.S Soveriegn
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| Sat Aug 31, 2002 3:59 pm FORGOT ONE |
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 I forgot that Crewman comes after Cadet.
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Zeke Zabertini
Captain
Joined: 13 Sep 2002
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| Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:00 pm |
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Maybe they just call every rank with 'commander' in the name 'commander'
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The Hunter
Commodore
Joined: 31 Jul 2002
Posts: 1010
Location: Second Officer-Deep Space 10
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| Tue Sep 17, 2002 6:35 pm |
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ya maybe
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UberSphen
Junior Cadet
Joined: 14 Dec 2003
Posts: 16
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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| Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:36 pm |
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Crewman isn't after cadet. Cadet's who graduate are promoted to Ensign. A person is called a crewman or midshipman if they are a non-commissioned officer. ie didn't spend four years at the Academy.
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Captain Michael Pike
Captain
Joined: 14 Jul 2001
Posts: 597
Location: PA
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| Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:19 pm Re: Chain of command |
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[quote="Bugger Boy"]I know (or at least i think i know) that the chain of command up to admiral is:
Cadet
Ensign
Lieutenant
Lieutenant Commander
Commander
Captain
(okay i don't know what comes next)
Commodore
Rear-Admiral
Admiral
I've often wondered though, what would it be like to be the president of the Federation.
That must be cool.
Must be like being prez of the U.S only 1000 times better.
I'll just be quiet now...
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Um...you forgot Lieutenant Junior Grade, Lower Rear Admiral (one pip surrounded by a box) Upper Rear Admiral (two pips in a box), Vice Admiral (three in a box) and also they got rid of the title Commodore. After Captain would be based on merit as to whether you become a lower or upper Rear Admiral or skip that and go straight to Vice Admiral.
And I don't think crewmen are above a cadet. Just like the US Navy, officers and officers in training (i.e. cadets) are still higher rank than enlisted men and women. For example, Chief O'Brien may have served Starfleet for twenty years but he still has to take direct orders from an Ensign who has just graduated the Academy. Usually, though, the officers understand the value of enlisted men as the ones who actually do the work and know the systems they specialize in. Officers just tell enlisted when to do it.
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