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EMH-The Doctor
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PostWed Aug 08, 2001 7:20 pm    

OK

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PostThu Aug 09, 2001 1:59 pm    

but they wish they could have made more, because they could have made a bunch of holodeck chaccters and had them be on the crew!!!!!



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EMH-The Doctor
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Captain Skyline
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PostSat Aug 11, 2001 4:19 am    

that seems dangerous


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PostTue Aug 14, 2001 10:25 am    

and starfleet should have cloaking tech, they need it, and it would aid them alot


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PostSat Aug 18, 2001 7:15 am    

if they don't use it in the Alpha Quadrant, Voyager should have made one



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TheDefiantOne
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PostFri Aug 24, 2001 8:30 am    

The reason why Starfleet hasn't developed cloaking tech is simple... they can't! Not that the Federation doesn't have the science to do it, but by law, they can't. MANY years ago (from Voyager's time) the Federation signed a treaty with the Romulans (I think to end the Romulan Wars). In return for a safe neutral zone with the Romulan Star Empire, the Federation was forbidden to develop any kind of cloaking technology.

Do you remember a TNG episode, I think it was called "Pegasus". Well, the featured ship was (you guess it!) the Pegasus. The ship had been equipped with a Phase cloaking device, but the device wasn't reliable and the risks were high... When found, the Pegasus was fused with an asteroid. Other things happened including issues with Romulans, BUT, the admiral in charge of the Pegasus project was charged with violation of the Treaty of Algeron, and the deaths of all crewmembers on board the Pegasus.

If your next question is: why does the Defiant have a cloaking device? The cloaking device was donated by the Romulans to help in the Dominion War effort. The device was only supposed to be used in the Gamma Quadrant and all intelligence gathered by the Defiant had to be shared with the RSE.



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PostMon Aug 27, 2001 10:40 pm    

Exactly! Someone who has knowledge of true Trek, finally. The treaty was called the Treaty of Algeron, and the Romulans expressly forbid the use of the Defiant's cloak in the Alpha or Beta quadrants. It was donated by the Romulans to help ensure the safety of the Alpha Quadrant, and in exchange for all Federation intelligence on Dominion and related activities in the Gamma Quadrant.

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Captain Skyline
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PostTue Aug 28, 2001 3:07 am    

yes exactly i knew all that. all u gotta do is read startrek books watch it on TV and u wud know that, but some people dont watch it much lol


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PostTue Aug 28, 2001 3:09 am    

the thing is they should make the cloaking devices anyway, equip it to ships but not use it unless absolutly nessesary. even though its a violation i would still have one. if u said to the romulans ur not aloud to use claok they would still have them

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Thomas
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PostTue Aug 28, 2001 7:36 am    

Well how comew the Romulans can have a cloak but the Federation can't, it's not fair.



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Captain Skyline
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PostTue Aug 28, 2001 9:10 am    

yeah i know.
The romulans are cool though


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TheDefiantOne
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PostTue Aug 28, 2001 10:55 am    

Romulans have cloaks because they invented it. The Klingons can use theirs (which is believed to have been obtained from the Romulans) freely because they were not a factor in the Treaty of Algeron. At the time of the signing, the Romulan Wars were not going extremely well for either side. The Romulans got to keep their cloaking device, and (as I said earlier) the Neutral Zone was created. Any crossing is to be considered an act of war by the aggressor.

Thanks for the complement Gaurav_st!



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Dax Orien
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PostWed Aug 29, 2001 4:48 am    

harry deserved much more than ensign!



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PostWed Aug 29, 2001 5:16 am    

Maybe he did, but he was too enthusiastic and exicitable.



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Dax Orien
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PostThu Aug 30, 2001 4:27 am    

Every single person on the whole ship should have gotten promoted!



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PostSat Sep 08, 2001 10:29 am    

I mean the whole ship! I mean look. They wre all alone and they worked really well together and they made it out! They should have all gotten promoted.



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J_Unit
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PostSun Sep 09, 2001 12:01 pm    

Yeah it seems they should have been promoted. They racked up enough time-in-grade.

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PostMon Sep 10, 2001 4:13 pm    

true true.



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Link, the Hero of Time
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PostSun Sep 23, 2001 3:21 pm    

promoted hell they should all be praised given medeals and then get promoted 3-4 ranks then get some serious time off, they did kill the borg queen brought back really cool technology.



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DrinkinV8
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PostSun Sep 23, 2001 4:24 pm    

Do they vacuum the ship? How does it stay so sparkly fresh and clean, clean, clean?? [(I WILL BE VERY DISSAPOINTED IF THEY DON:T HAVE VACUUMERS, look at my occupation.)]

thank you smart ppl


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Link, the Hero of Time
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PostMon Oct 01, 2001 3:20 pm    

after all that time in space i don't think the first thing on peoples mind is vaccuming, who would want a cleaning crew in your way when you just got home from a long mission?



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PostMon Oct 01, 2001 11:15 pm    

Why vacuum when you can just blow out the deck to the vacuum of space? Easy cleaning!

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PostTue Oct 02, 2001 6:10 am    

easy ripping the carpets, consoles and people out too



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Link, the Hero of Time
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PostTue Oct 02, 2001 2:56 pm    

thats the fun part, grab a space suit and see how long you can hang on before your blown out into space



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