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Chikotay
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PostWed Feb 13, 2002 12:42 pm    

How is it that in some episodes the doctor is shown to be "solid".....but in others...he's not...like the one where they go to help the hologram program on the alien ship....the hologram swings a weapon at the doc and it passes right thru.
I don't think the doc has the ability to turn his forcefields on and off at will.


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Tsuki no Hikari
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PostThu Feb 14, 2002 1:10 am    

I believe he may if he's connected to his mobile emittor, but it may also be a principle of force. If too much is applied quickly, the force fields may give like a safety protocol. I do remember another episode, it may have been when the hologram tech went out of control against the Hirogin(sp). They could make physical contact with you, but you couldn't hit them.

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PostThu Feb 14, 2002 3:03 am    

Yes...I guess the safety protocol explanation is pretty plausible.

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PostThu Feb 14, 2002 5:33 pm    

Maybe, also, that at certain speeds or unpredicted moves the field emmiter cannot adjust fast enough to maintain solid matter. (Or maybe the producers didn't have enough funds to make him solid for that long and had to edit matter out)



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PostFri Feb 15, 2002 12:25 pm    

It would be interesting to see what happens when the doc is in bed with someone...

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PostSat Apr 20, 2002 9:25 pm    

Actually he has control over it remmeber the episode were he was explaining it to tom paris and pressed some computer buttons and told tom to hit him and his hand passed through and then pressed some more buttons and slaped tom paris. It was the episode were Neelix got holographic lungs and he was explaining it, it can either pass through the photons or it could be made solid.


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PostSun Apr 21, 2002 11:35 am    

So in other words, he does have control of his forcefields.


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PostSun Apr 21, 2002 1:53 pm    

Lt.BirdGod wrote:
So in other words, he does have control of his forcefields.


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MT39503
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PostTue Apr 23, 2002 9:23 pm    

The doc did once say to someone ( Id on't remember who) that he could intract with patients as a real being could. In other eposides he is able to walk through walls wothoust his moble emmiter. I belive his programing is responsible for this.

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PostMon Jun 17, 2002 7:51 pm    

In my opinion, the designers of the first holographic Doctor, figured that there would be times the Doctor would be needed where a physical Doctor could not get to. Therefore, the holographic program, is able to determine when the force behind the doctor's projection needs to be lessened.


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Commander Ranahan
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PostMon Jun 17, 2002 9:37 pm    

Well on enterprise the had holograms on the alien ship

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PostTue Jun 18, 2002 9:44 pm    

In one of the espisodes they specifically show him change from "solid" to just visible by doing something on LCARS.


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PostSat Jun 22, 2002 7:45 am    

I agree!

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PostSat Jun 22, 2002 12:32 pm    

its also possible that the doc can control his forcefields but sometimes he doesnt have the time to react, afterall he's only a hologram


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PostSun Jul 28, 2002 10:34 pm    Quantum Tunneling

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If they used Quantum tunneling To get through a barrier

Then perhaps they could project his forcefield because once it goes through the barrier I do believe it will go about however thick that barrier was past the barrier.

Anyway if they Could "Tunnel" Past the Wall using that system however they do it... Then that could explain how the Holograms and the forcefields could go through solid objects like walls and such.
Read up on Quantum Tunneling yourself if you want more Info.


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PostMon Aug 12, 2002 10:39 am    

yeah I think they have control of when they want to be solid.


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PostSun Aug 18, 2002 2:42 pm    

I believe that centiant/somewhat centiant (sp) (be able to think and act on own), hologram like the doctor are given the ability to control there forcefields for different situations. Some situations are when attacked by hostile forces, and internal surgery. My opinion


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Borg771
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PostTue Sep 10, 2002 8:09 pm    

I dont know really... I cant answer that for you. sorry!


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PostThu Sep 12, 2002 3:12 pm    




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Zeke Zabertini
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PostSun Sep 15, 2002 4:04 pm    

holograms can be programed with forcefeilds, but they can turn them off and pass through things. With a good control matrix, they can reactivate the forcefeild on only some parts of thier body; like when the insane hologram reached inside B'Elanna and messed with her organs.

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PostTue Sep 17, 2002 6:53 pm    

he might have that ability


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Borg771
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PostWed Sep 18, 2002 6:06 pm    

Yeah hes right. I saw it on a voyager episode. the doctor turned off his forcefields.


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