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Chinesetrekkie
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How does Archer compare to Janeway, Sisko, Picard, Kirk, etc....?
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Chinesetrekkie
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| Thu Feb 28, 2002 10:48 pm |
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I say....
Archer: Quick thinker, and he is doing well without training.
Janeway: Follow rules most of the time, and is strong, for she was able to keep her crew stable.
Picard: Strong on his rules...
Sisko: Loves the 1900's and is the kind you don't want to get on his bad side.
Kirk: Jokes around, however able to get out of problems..
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Picard alpha 110
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Joined: 16 Feb 2002
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| Fri Mar 01, 2002 5:32 pm |
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acher more like us picard stern but the best janeway huh kirk likes to joke sisko nah
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Chinesetrekkie
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| Fri Mar 01, 2002 9:42 pm |
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On 2002-03-01 16:32, Picard alpha 110 wrote:
acher more like us picard stern but the best janeway huh kirk likes to joke sisko nah
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hmm..
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MikeyManVersion1
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I say Janeway is the best........... but all the others are equal to her................. what can i say....... i LOVE Star Trek!!!  
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B'Elanna
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so far i'm quite impressed with Archer, he looks to be ahead strong captain!
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B'Elanna
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so far i'm quite impressed with Archer, he looks to be a head strong captain!
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shrek man
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Janeway,Sisko,picard,and Kirk are the best ones and Archer is alright. 
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Fleur Paris
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| Wed Mar 06, 2002 3:22 pm |
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Sry but Archer bugs....(I like his puppy though
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tabby cat nebula
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I think Archer needs some self-confidence. He seems too concerned about making alien visitors happy and making sure everyone gets along. He seems to keep trying to avoid conflict at all costs, which may not always be the best move as a captain because others will see it as a weakness. My vote for best captain would go to Picard.
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EMH Doctor
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Location: California/Sweden
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| Wed Mar 06, 2002 6:05 pm |
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On 2002-03-06 14:54, tabby cat nebula wrote:
I think Archer needs some self-confidence. He seems too concerned about making alien visitors happy and making sure everyone gets along. He seems to keep trying to avoid conflict at all costs, which may not always be the best move as a captain because others will see it as a weakness. My vote for best captain would go to Picard.
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I agree that archer would need more slef confidence, or maybe he just can�t "think outside the box". And he doesn�t seem to have much experience before he became a captain, that would help him. My vote for #1 captain goes to Janeway.
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Chinesetrekkie
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| Wed Mar 06, 2002 10:41 pm |
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Well, he is trying something noone else tried before.
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tabby cat nebula
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| Thu Mar 07, 2002 1:33 pm |
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On 2002-03-06 21:41, Shenyang12 wrote:
Well, he is trying something noone else tried before.
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That's true. And I would judge him less critically than the other captains because of that. But still and all, it's hard to believe that there was no other human available to command Enterprise that couldn't do a better job of it. I imagine the first time an astronaut went up to the space station or flew in a shuttle or something he had the necessary skills and attitude for the job. I can't help but think Archer just isn't "captain material" and I have a hard time believing there wasn't someone a bit more suitable available.
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EMH Doctor
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| Thu Mar 07, 2002 5:53 pm |
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On 2002-03-07 12:33, tabby cat nebula wrote:
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On 2002-03-06 21:41, Shenyang12 wrote:
Well, he is trying something noone else tried before.
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That's true. And I would judge him less critically than the other captains because of that. But still and all, it's hard to believe that there was no other human available to command Enterprise that couldn't do a better job of it. I imagine the first time an astronaut went up to the space station or flew in a shuttle or something he had the necessary skills and attitude for the job. I can't help but think Archer just isn't "captain material" and I have a hard time believing there wasn't someone a bit more suitable available.
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I agree totally. Some people are borned to be leaders but Archer is not one of them. He doesn�t seem to have any extraordinary skill that makes him captain material. And he seems to have problems to see what other people thinks. He is to stubborn and concerned with what he wants.
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Link, the Hero of Time
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| Thu Mar 07, 2002 8:58 pm |
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I agree with most of that..
He doesn�t seem to have any extraordinary skill.
but thats what makes him cool.
He's to the point, he only jokes when neccesary
and he has a cool dog
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Chinesetrekkie
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| Thu Mar 07, 2002 9:55 pm |
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On 2002-03-07 19:58, Link, the Hero of Time wrote:
I agree with most of that..
He doesn�t seem to have any extraordinary skill.
but thats what makes him cool.
He's to the point, he only jokes when neccesary
and he has a cool dog
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I see more people like his dog than him, oh well who can blame them, hehe
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DeltaFlyer
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| Fri Mar 08, 2002 5:34 am |
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I like his sense of humor 
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EMH Doctor
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| Fri Mar 08, 2002 6:31 pm |
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He hoefully will get more skilled as time goes on, but his general traits will probably still be there. H is to ignorant and can�t really see others points of view.
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Link, the Hero of Time
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| Fri Mar 08, 2002 10:06 pm |
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his dog is cool
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Chinesetrekkie
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| Fri Mar 08, 2002 10:29 pm |
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well i say we should give him a hand, for if his mission does not succeed, starfleet would have gived up, trying to explore.
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tabby cat nebula
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On 2002-03-08 17:31, EMH Doctor wrote:
He hoefully will get more skilled as time goes on, but his general traits will probably still be there. H is to ignorant and can�t really see others points of view.
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Right! I agree with you. He is stubborn and his pride and mental baggage get in the way of proper command decisions. For example, in "Breaking the Ice," a good captain would never have let his pride interfere with agreeing to let the Vulcans help when their help was necessary to save the crewmen trapped on the asteroid. He should not have needed to hear a talk/lecture from T'Pol before agreeing to let the Vulcans help. The safety of the crew should always come before personal pride and stubborness and trying to prove you are independent.
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EMH Doctor
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| Sun Mar 10, 2002 8:44 pm |
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Exactly. How would he feel if he was down there? He probably have wanted them to get the help from the vulcans as quickly as possible. But he will hopefully learn from his mistakes and become more captainlike, otherwise he will go down as the worst cptain in history. Okey not really but I would not pick him as a typical leader.
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Janeway_kate
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| Sun Mar 17, 2002 8:44 pm |
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Janeway by far is the best of all of them!
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ensighnkim
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| Tue Mar 19, 2002 8:55 pm |
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not one of these again....
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Chinesetrekkie
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| Sun Apr 28, 2002 2:17 am |
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| Janeway_kate wrote: | Janeway by far is the best of all of them!
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thanks for reminding us.. 
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