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MakeItSo Commander

Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 406 Location: Somewhere in California
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:53 am |
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Founder wrote: | luit14 wrote: | Founder wrote: | I saw it. The movie was fantastic, but Daniel Craig is not Bond. I hope they get rid of him. |
I would have agreed with you before I saw the movie. I was expecting to not like him. But if you can get past the blonde hair and blue eyes, I thought he did a great job acting the part. just my opinion  |
It's hard to get past that. Bond isn't just about being tough, but about his suave look. This guy does not carry that. The story and all that was good, but that's because of the book, not because of Craig. |
Uh being a girl, I thought he was pretty damn suave and smooth actually. Not as smooth as some of the other Bond's, but it's about how he becomes more of that suave persona for this story. But yeah I thought he was very good at acting it.
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Link, the Hero of Time Vice Admiral

Joined: 15 Sep 2001 Posts: 5581 Location: Kokori Forest, Hyrule
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:24 am |
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Problem is, this is Bond's first assignment as a 00 agent. He's not the refined smooth talker we all know him as. He is a blunt instrument. Even in the book he was a blunt instrument.
At least he had the Beretta, Bond's first gun, with the silencer.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative

Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:56 pm |
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La Forge wrote: | Craig plays the book Bond the best than any other Bond. However, yes, the blonde hair and blue eyes is a problem. |
His hair and eye color made absolutely no difference to me, to be honest.
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WeAz Commodore
Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 1519 Location: Where you aren't
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:56 pm |
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He is one of the best Bond's so far. Much better than Brosnan ever was.
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Founder Dominion Leader

Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:38 pm |
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WeAz wrote: | He is one of the best Bond's so far. Much better than Brosnan ever was. |
Wow...the fact some people believe that is scary...
Quote: | His hair and eye color made absolutely no difference to me, to be honest. |
Well it bothers me because Bond doesn't look like that. 
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative

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Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:22 pm |
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Founder wrote: | WeAz wrote: | He is one of the best Bond's so far. Much better than Brosnan ever was. |
Wow...the fact some people believe that is scary... |
Why? Because he's got blond hair?
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Founder Dominion Leader

Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:34 pm |
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Republican_Man wrote: | Founder wrote: | WeAz wrote: | He is one of the best Bond's so far. Much better than Brosnan ever was. |
Wow...the fact some people believe that is scary... |
Why? Because he's got blond hair? |
No....
Because Pierce had the look and the attitude. In my opinion, Craig did not have the first part and barely had the second.
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voyagerfreak29 Commander

Joined: 19 Jan 2002 Posts: 373 Location: Mesquite High School
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:39 pm |
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Founder wrote: | Republican_Man wrote: | Founder wrote: | WeAz wrote: | He is one of the best Bond's so far. Much better than Brosnan ever was. |
Wow...the fact some people believe that is scary... |
Why? Because he's got blond hair? |
No....
Because Pierce had the look and the attitude. In my opinion, Craig did not have the first part and barely had the second. |
I totally agreee with you 100% 
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WeAz Commodore
Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 1519 Location: Where you aren't
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:32 pm |
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Brosnan played Bond like an Aristocrat. Craig plays him like he should be, suave, but maintaining his past military self.
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Founder Dominion Leader

Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:52 pm |
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WeAz wrote: | Brosnan played Bond like an Aristocrat. Craig plays him like he should be, suave, but maintaining his past military self. |
But he wasn't suave....at all. 
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral

Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 11214 Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:36 pm |
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Broasan was my favorit bond, for sure. Goldeneye is probably my favorit bond movie.
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Ziona Fleet Admiral

Joined: 22 Aug 2001 Posts: 12821 Location: Michigan... for now
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:56 pm |
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I should probably go see a Bond movie. I haven't seen a single James Bond movie in my entire 19 years of existance 
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral

Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 11214 Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:59 pm |
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Yes! go see one! A connery, or a Brosan!
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed

Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 13057 Location: New York
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:17 am |
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I've seen this twice. As Link said, this is about his promotion to a double 0, so he'd obviously not have the same attitude of the later Bonds, as he'd have less experience. I liked the way they made him less-refined and and more blunt, it was true to the character. You could easily see it (lack of experience) in the chase-scene towards the beginning where he's going after the guy with the bomb and ends up at the embassy. The terrorist can easily maneuver and jump over things, whereas Bond has to go around them, or through them.
The only two things that bothered me were some of the American-isms that Bond had, and the cars. I mean, he's supposed to be British, first-off, so the previous part kind of killed that. And as for the latter, you seem him driving a Ford in the beginning? How sick. And they used the same black Bentley and Jaguar over and over again. Ugh. Other than that, it was pretty good.
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voyagerfreak29 Commander

Joined: 19 Jan 2002 Posts: 373 Location: Mesquite High School
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:46 am |
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Craig is good but Brosnan was the best
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WeAz Commodore
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:50 pm |
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IntrepidIsMe wrote: | I liked the way they made him less-refined and and more blunt, it was true to the character. | Thats what most people don't seem to get. He wasn't playing a normal Bond. I'm sure he can play him well later on.
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Ford in the beginning? How sick. |
It was a rental. He wasn't on an assignment.
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed

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Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:30 pm |
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Yes, but still. It was just so... sad.
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral

Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 11214 Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:50 pm |
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Bond, in a Ford? Aaron, what happened to the world? 
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed

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Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:03 am |
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I've been wondering the same thing myself, 
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative

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Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:20 am |
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I didn't even pay any mind to the company of the car 
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed

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Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:32 am |
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And you call yourself a fan, 
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative

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Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:54 am |
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IntrepidIsMe wrote: | And you call yourself a fan,  |
lol. I was into everything else. I don't pay attention to the types of cars in any movie, Bond or non-Bond, lol. But now that it's brought up, I do remember it. I just didn't realize it beforehand. I do agree it was stupid, though.
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WeAz Commodore
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Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:02 am |
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The entire audience was laughing when we saw it. It was a funny little joke.
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Link, the Hero of Time Vice Admiral

Joined: 15 Sep 2001 Posts: 5581 Location: Kokori Forest, Hyrule
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Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:41 am |
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Well the car he wins was an Aston Martin DB5, Bond's original car and the one he ended up with later was an Aston Martin DBS, Which is a successor of the Aston Martin DB5.
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed

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Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:53 pm |
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Yes thank god for that. The two Astons saved the whole car issue, although it would have been neater for them to re-pimp the DB5 like they did with the DBS. Although... he did total the DBS, and that would have would been rather blasphemous to do to the DB5. I don't know how I feel about it all, honestly, 
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