The Parallel Universe.

noiselab · Junior Cadet Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 19

Was wondering if someone could endulge me as to what exactly happened in that one episode of ENT where Archer and his crew were all evil and stole a newer Enterprise from some docking station while wearing TOS outfits. Was that supposed to have been them in a parallel universe kind of like one of those episodes from DS9 where the station was still under Cardassian control and Oto was the slave master and Sisqo was some renegade jock ?

Founder · **Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:24 am**

This is a link that explains the Mirror Universe.

These two links, In a Mirror, Darkly(Part I) and In a Mirror, Darkly(Part II), explain the episodes you're asking about.

In short, yes, it's the same mirror universe from DS9. However, DS9 showed the Terrans as slaves, while ENT showed them when they were powerful masters.

lionhead · **Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:33 am**

it the same mirror universe as in TOS as well to my knowledge. Episode "Mirror, Mirror"

noiselab · Junior Cadet Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 19

Yeah I think the main reason that ENT episode threw me off was because they changed from a more futuristic ENT set to a less futuristic TOS set, and it seemed like the "more advanced" ship they captured was really much much older. At first that confused me, but later I did realize that TOS took place much much much later than ENT. Sorry I'm fairly new to the Trek series, I'm still yet to watch TOS and VOY, so...I'm a little behind

Lord Borg · **Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:19 am**

The name of the vessel they stole, is actually the USS Defiant NCC-1764, a sister ship of the Enterprise (1701)

noiselab · Junior Cadet Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 19

Didn't know that either

Founder · **Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:23 am**

noiselab · Junior Cadet Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 19

Oh I'm still reading, sorry. So pardon another stupid question, why did they call it the Terran empire ?

Lord Borg · **Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:31 am**

Because, in that universe, Humans are known as Terrans, and the Empire was ran by them

noiselab · Junior Cadet Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 19

Oh ok now I think I remember that insignia, when Archer was in the parallel universe their uniforms all of a sudden had that "Earth With A Sword" emblem on them and the attire resembled that of a military style...ok. Confusing but interesting.

lionhead · **Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:27 am**

In the mirror universe Humanity is a lot more Militaristic, opportunistic, Violent and Xenophobic than in the Original Universe towards other as well towards themselves. The rest of the species are the same as in the original universe.

Lord Borg · **Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:31 am**

lionhead · **Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:16 pm**

Well from what i can tell.

Founder · **Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:41 pm**

It's weird cause from what I remember from the TOS episode, they didn't seem to mind Vulcans...

I guess they learned tolerance or something by that point...

StarfleetCommand74656 · Captain Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 653 Location: On STV

I should imagine the Vulcs had gone from a conquered race to a willing partisan of the Empire. I think in the MU it would be good to see evil characters being nice, e.g a friendly Gul Dukat or something. I wrote a fanfic featuring Captain Pike in the miu