Mel Gibson Admits to Making Anti-Semitic Remarks

[CJ Cregg]

[charlie]

Leo Wyatt Wrote

[teya]

Maybe you could understand my POV if we put it this way...

If a well-known actor and director were stopped for driving drunk, and started going off on the arresting officer saying that Christians were to blame for all the wars throughout history, and that he hated Christians, would you be inclined to buy a ticket to his next film without question?

After all, he didn't really mean it. And bigotry is really no big deal, right?

[Republican_Man]

I may very well do it, depending on the actor and film. I'd be far less inclined to forgive those in Hollywood that do much the same thing while sober, though. But I still see Hollywood films, despite the fact that almost all of them involve anti-Christian directors and ators.

Yes, I acknowledge the differences between the two instances (sober and not sober, what they say, etc), but if an actor honestly apologized and had been shown to pretty much not be anti-Christian in the past, yes, I'd forgive him.

[teya]

[Leo Wyatt]

Mel is human just like the rest of us. So don't expect him to perfect. Humans are bound to fall and make mistakes.and say things that we may regret later.

[Republican_Man]

[teya]

^ You misunderstand. There's no doubt that some Jews *of the time* were involved.

Traditionalist Catholics believe in the pre-Vatican 2 doctrine that *all* Jews, even those born today, are responsible.

That's like saying that every white person today is responsible for slavery. We aren't--and I'm not responsible for Jesus's death either.

[Republican_Man]

Well, consider this. Traditional Catholics have a number of differences from post-Vatican II Catholics, among them this Jewish one. Considering a number of factors, I'd personally give him the benefit of the doubt. He may be a traditional Catholic, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he agrees with the Jewish aspect of it. He could believe in a whole range of other issues that the modern Catholic church does not follow and believe in that far outnumber what he agrees with the modern church on--and that doesn't necessarily include the Jewish part. Just because he's a traditional Catholic doesn't mean he's anti-Semetic. He could just believe in more traditional Catholic ideas than modern Catholic ideas.

[Founder]

[Lord Borg]

[Republican_Man]

Well said, Founder. He already said he was going to try to think about his words and seek help in fighting both his alcohol addiction and his potential problem regarding his anti-Semetic comments. That says something about him, does it not?

[teya]

I'll tell ya what... I'll see what he has to say on Yom Kippur. He's asked a local synagogue if he can speak before the congregation on the Day of Atonement. Since that's also the day, according to Jewish tradition, that we forgive debts and insults, if he's sincere (i.e. doesn't have a million excuses for his behavior), I'll go see "Apocapalypto" when it opens.

[Puck]

The Traditionalist Catholics (the group Mel Gibson belongs to) are not the same as Roman Catholics who may be seen as more 'traditional'. Traditionalist Catholics are a schismatic group in most all cases, and are not in communion with Rome.

Just wanted to make sure that was clarified
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[Republican_Man]

I read the Wikipedia article on traditional Catholics, Kev. That's more than understood, at least by me The clarification is important, though, but I would definitely consider Mel Gibson a Catholic, even if he's not in-league with Rome.

And good, teya. I didn't know he was going to do that. Tell me what you find out, will you?

[Puck]