Mutiny on Flight 613

Founder · **Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:05 pm**

Asian? I'm gonna take it they meant Asian as in people of Indian, Nepalese, Pakistani, etc descent.

This is ridiculous and racist.

Republican_Man · **Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:09 pm**

How can you blanketly call it racist? I'm not saying that what they did was necessarily a good thing, but it is possible to find Asian terrorists. Think about Indonesia, for one.

Doesn't this bring up debate over racial profiling? I'm not so sure that racial profiling is wise, but terrorist profiling--compiling a number of factors that have been found to make up a terrorist--should be admissible.

Founder · **Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:12 pm**

Lord Borg · **Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:29 pm**

I have to agree, the passengers were being racist. They took one look at these people and said "OMG! their terrorist get them out of here!" The point wasn't whether or not if there are Asian terrorist in the area, the point is, people judged these two on skin color. Basicly, their skin color is why caused this...that's racism, "terrorist profiling" or not.

Republican_Man · **Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:55 pm**

Well, if it was simply because they're Asian, yes, that's racist. But if they had more concern with that, then it wasn't necessarily racist. I guess it's the former, so I guess you're right.

Founder · **Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:27 am**

Now, this happened in England, so I can kind of understand why they reacted this way. They almost lost several planes to terrorists recently. So I can understand their fear, but they need to calm the hell down. This could lead to violence.

Lord Borg · **Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:25 am**

Exactly, I understand the fear, but they DO need to calm down, not only will ultimatly someone innocent get hurt, but giving into the fear is another way for the terrorist to win.

Republican_Man · **Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:28 am**

Isn't that why we call them terrorists? Because they do what they do to instill terror?

PrankishSmart · **Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:29 am**

Thats very dissapointing. If I was on the plane I would NOT have joined the mutiny and would have called the passengers RACIST who were that, myself.

CJ Cregg · Commodore Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254

Republican_Man · **Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:11 pm**

Hmmm... Perhaps these people weren't racist, afterall.

CJ Cregg · Commodore Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254

Well the first post was from a Tabloid, what do you expect

Republican_Man · **Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:31 pm**

I didn't check out the link any further, so I didn't realize it was a Tabloid

Yeah, that's what one would definitely expect.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

The BBC still reports though that they were removed from the plane for "speaking Arabic and acting suspiciously". (LINK TO BBC ARTICLE)

Anyways, I think this whole thing was stupid, we can't simply let passengers decide who rides and who doesn't. It doesn't help security at all to turn over airport procedure to a bunch of people who want to be vigilantes.

jonathan95 · **Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:38 pm**

I suppose to be honest what you actualy have to think about as that we have just undercovered a major plot to blow up a lot of planes, leaving the UK, not to mention the amount of attempts latly that has been avioded.

I am not saying that the people on the plane were right to do what they did but I totaly understand what the passangers on that flight most have been going through.

I mean I am just glad I am not trying to fly by plane as of all the extra security proticals involved.

but you imaginge getting on a plane, and you hear a few people looking a bit adjetated and speaking a forign toung of corse people are going to be not happy.

I as a person living in the uk, Wish that we'd calm down a bit but at the monment I dont see it happening not after recent events, I see the problem getting worse before it really gets better, I mean come on you have air lines sueing airports thats got to be screwed.

Admiral Dani�l · **Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:47 pm**

This can be racism or they are really terrorists or they are just some agressive asians. Anyway they brought em out of the plane, if they were true this would mean another disaster was averted, if this was false then it will be another laughter for the press

CJ Cregg · Commodore Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254

So would you, if you were on a plane and saw 2 Muslims acting suspicious just dismiss it?

I don't think its racism, its common sense. I would have done the same thing as the passengers is i saw some suspicious Muslims.

jonathan95 · **Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:20 pm**

yer I read the article that they took them off the plane but we dont here anything else other than after all the passangers were taken off the flight the the luggage scanned, that the two suspect passagers never flue on that flight its a little suspcious really. now eather nothing was found and they just wanted to get that flight off or something was strange and they were held longer going above and beyond some passangers going hey I think these people are a bit strange.

IntrepidIsMe · **Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:17 pm**

This seems to simply be racist.

LightningBoy · **Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:26 am**

IntrepidIsMe · **Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:45 pm**

It's rather common to check your watch often if you're waiting for a plane and sitting in a terminal. And wearing jackets? So what. Wasn't that guy the police shot down and killed before acting "suspicious" because he was wearing a jacket? And look where that got them.

Of course the police detained them. Security in the USA would do the same thing if people saw others acting "suspicious."

Lord Borg · **Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:58 pm**

Yeah, that's the thing, people are being judged for looking differnt. This is causing people to get hurt....

PrankishSmart · **Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:48 am**

I think the point has come where people have become too paranoid and being racist like that proves it.

Security measures have improved ten fold last 5 years and I think it would be impossible to smuggle a bomb on board large enough to destroy the plane in mid flight or even cripple the plane.

IntrepidIsMe · **Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:26 pm**