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 Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:18 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | But was it the Native Americans currently alive that we stole their land from? No, it wasn't. You can't have it both ways, saying we'll give reparations to Native Americans but not to blacks because they weren't around during the slave times, etc. |
No, thats different though. The Native Americans are still suffering to this day because of what the old settlers did. Most African Americans are not, unless you count the ones that suffered through the civil rights era.
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Lord Borg
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:37 pm |
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Good point, Andy. Ever see a reserve for the Native Amerricans? I haven't but I've heard storied from people that have been to them. They are bad, some anyways, not all. Like Andy said, the Native Americans are STILL suffering.
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:45 pm |
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Well, I'm opposed to a great deal of reparations overall, but I will concede that if we're going to give any, it should be towards the Native Americans.
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:49 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | Well, I'm opposed to a great deal of reparations overall, but I will concede that if we're going to give any, it should be towards the Native Americans. |
Well I too agree that we shouldn't give reparations to anyone. I didn't do anything to any of these races.
My point was that if anyone deserved it FIRST, it would be the Native Americans.
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:56 pm |
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Very well, then. I wholeheartily agree with that sentiment.
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madlilnerd
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| Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:48 am |
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Land and suffering are different things.
You can give back land, which was kinda their birth right as it was their land (although, in their beliefs, it doesn't belong to anyone). I think land should be returned to all natives, be they native americans, aborinies, tribes in the amazon rainforest...
You can't sorta undo what we did to the blacks (unless you've got some "magical whip" that delivers uphoria instead of pain. I think it's called morphine...)
And I am thoroughly weirded out that my quote became a historial moment.
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