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Solitary Poet Captain
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 805 Location: Lancaster (Dallas), Texas
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Sun May 21, 2006 8:35 am Wolverine/Thomas Howlett, from �X-Men� Immortal NOT mutant. |
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As everyone probably knows by now, the character Wolverine from �X-Men� has some pretty peculiar attributes, he can heal from mortal wounds (quite quickly) and due to his unique nature, it is said that there is no way of knowing just how old he is, to quote the movie �He could be forty or four-hundred.� We also know from sources that in the 1800s his name was Thomas Howlett.
I just googled Thomas Howlett and some cool genealogy came up. there was a real person named Thomas Howlett Born circa 1637 in Ipswich, Massachusetts and Thomas died in Ipswich, Massachusetts, on 22 Dec 1667. Thomas Howlett had two stepchildren, Alice and Sarah(he didn�t have children of his own). It almost sounds like a cool �Highlander� immortal bio�, just slap first death before died and presto, Wolverine is older (and younger) than previously thought.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Sun May 21, 2006 10:22 am |
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That guy only became 30 years old and died? Doesn't sound very immortal.
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Solitary Poet Captain
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 805 Location: Lancaster (Dallas), Texas
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Sun May 21, 2006 10:26 am |
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According to the �Highlander� movies and TV shows, you have to die an unnatural premature death to become immortal, after that you are frozen at the age you died at and never grow older.
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Sun May 21, 2006 3:51 pm |
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Good point
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 11214 Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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Sun May 21, 2006 5:35 pm |
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Yeah, but Wolverine is a Mutant, this has been stated manytimes, his long life comes from his regeneration
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Solitary Poet Captain
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 805 Location: Lancaster (Dallas), Texas
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Sun May 21, 2006 5:53 pm |
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Lord Borg wrote: | Yeah, but Wolverine is a Mutant, this has been stated manytimes, his long life comes from his regeneration |
The immortals from �Highlander� regenerate in the exact same way, there unique dormant genes are activated at their first death. And just as it has been said in �X-Men�, fore Wolverine, the only way to kill them permanently is to remove their heads.
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 11214 Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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Sun May 21, 2006 6:34 pm |
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Solitary Poet wrote: | Lord Borg wrote: | Yeah, but Wolverine is a Mutant, this has been stated manytimes, his long life comes from his regeneration |
The immortals from �Highlander� regenerate in the exact same way, there unique dormant genes are activated at their first death. And just as it has been said in �X-Men�, fore Wolverine, the only way to kill them permanently is to remove their heads. |
Yes, but the creators said he's a Mutant, that's all that is required for me.
Quote: | A mutant, Wolverine possesses animal-keen senses and reflexes and a healing factor that allows him to recover from virtually any wound at a rapid rate. The supersoldier program Weapon X bonded the unbreakable metal alloy adamantium to his skeleton, granting him six 12-inch claws that protrude from the backs of his hands. He is also master of hand-to-hand combat. |
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lionhead Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: The Delta Quadrant (or not...)
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Mon May 22, 2006 6:06 am |
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His wolf-like instincts and his ability to cure diseases(his body litterally creates the cure inside his body) is definitly from being a Mutant. So his Healing rate is mutation as well.
His adamantium skeleton exists only because he can heal himself at such a high rate, or he would have never survived it.
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madlilnerd Duchess of Dancemat
Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 5885 Location: Slough, England
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Sat May 27, 2006 6:35 pm |
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... so are we allowed to decapitate him or not?
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 11214 Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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Sat May 27, 2006 6:48 pm |
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Prolly not, he'd get pretty pissed at you
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Valathous The Canadian, eh
Joined: 31 Aug 2002 Posts: 19074 Location: Centre Bell
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Sat May 27, 2006 6:57 pm |
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Impossible to decapitate Wolverine. His entire skeleton is made of indestructable metal, including his neck. So if Solitary Poet's theory was right, Wolverine would, in fact, be immortal.
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Solitary Poet Captain
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 805 Location: Lancaster (Dallas), Texas
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Sun May 28, 2006 12:57 am |
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Wolverine lives forever!
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Valathous The Canadian, eh
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Sun May 28, 2006 1:20 am |
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Btw, his name was JAMES Howlett, not Thomas.
... And he's Canadian, .
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sun May 28, 2006 1:46 am |
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Um...no. He is not immortal. Burning him, drowning him, blowing him up, or losing a lot of blood. Those four DEFINITLY kill him.
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Valathous The Canadian, eh
Joined: 31 Aug 2002 Posts: 19074 Location: Centre Bell
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Sun May 28, 2006 2:27 am |
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Immortal and invincible are two different things,
He can apparently tolerate a bit of the burning and a bit of the exploding, though. Just depends on the degree.
He has been in several different comic books and was killed in one of them by a sentinal. He took a direct shot and it vapourized all of his flesh instantly, not allowing him to heal. Left his adamantium skeleton, though.
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 11214 Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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Sun May 28, 2006 12:39 pm |
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He's not Highlander immortal, his regerneration comes from his Mutation. It is possible to kill him, but eh, leave a few cells that can stay alive long enough to split and regenerat etc... and he'll come back (LIke the head shot in X:2)
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Valathous The Canadian, eh
Joined: 31 Aug 2002 Posts: 19074 Location: Centre Bell
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Mon May 29, 2006 5:21 pm |
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Um, he was never killed in X2, just knocked unconcious. His skull is adamantium, too, which is indestructable... The bullet didn't pierce anything but his skin.
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Siege Commander
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 447
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:58 am |
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Founder wrote: | Um...no. He is not immortal. Burning him, drowning him, blowing him up, or losing a lot of blood. Those four DEFINITLY kill him. |
The Punisher blew Wolverine to pieces a few years ago, and Wolvie regenerated fully within a few hours.
And, as already mentioned, Wolverine's name is James Howlett.
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