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WeAz
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| Jeremy wrote: | | It depends what the exact rules of the school were, although I don't think someone should be chucked out for that. Maybe if the school had a "no other languages" policy then it might have been a punishment excersise at worst, but expulsion? That's just stupid. |
Its illegal to have a'no otherlanguages' policy, First Amendmant
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:10 pm |
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On government documents it wouldn't be, but in something like this, yes, it is.
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Captain Dappet
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| Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:11 pm |
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| Janeway_74656 wrote: | | That principal should be fired, this is racism at its worst |
I'd say racism at it's worst is people having other people killed because they're of another ethnicity, like the KKK and so on, but that's really beside the point.
Excuse me for going off topic.
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Cathexis
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| Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:21 pm |
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| Founder wrote: | The school's point of view has already been adressed.
"'You're not suspending my kid for fighting, for being disruptive for being disrespectful -- just speaking Spanish?'" said Rubio, detailing what his father asked the school.
Rubio said school officials told his father, "'Yes, that's correct, just speaking Spanish, and I don't want it here.'"
They suspended him simply for speaking Spanish, nothing more. |
Check it again......................no DIRECT quote FROM the officials and their reasons.
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Founder
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| Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:53 pm |
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It doesn't matter. He was repeating what THEY said.
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Link, the Hero of Time
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| Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:58 pm |
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| Founder wrote: | | It doesn't matter. He was repeating what THEY said. |
How do you know?
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Founder
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| Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:13 pm |
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| Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | | Founder wrote: | | It doesn't matter. He was repeating what THEY said. |
How do you know? |
Because in the article the school officials did not argue that quote. They clearly said it. Not to mention the bottom of the article says...
| Quote: | | The school district released a statement, saying it acted quickly in the matter and has apologized to Rubio and his parents. |
Why apologize to something they didn't do?
If Rubio was lying, the people who punished him would have came forward and argued this case.
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Republican_Man
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Founder's right. Seems to me like they did what they did, no question about it. That was wrong of them. So wrong.
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TrekkieMage
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| Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:24 pm |
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I'd still like to hear/see a quote directly from them. But I am inclined to believe the kid.
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Cathexis
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| Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:42 am |
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| TrekkieMage wrote: | | I'd still like to hear/see a quote directly from them. But I am inclined to believe the kid. |
Yeah. Same here.
I'm just saying that I find the article to be one-sided and suspiciously biased in the kid's favor. We don't know that perhaps the school just doesn't want a court battle and that's why they aren't arguing against Rubio.
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Link, the Hero of Time
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| Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:20 pm |
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| Founder wrote: |
Because in the article the school officials did not argue that quote. They clearly said it. Not to mention the bottom of the article says...
| Quote: | | The school district released a statement, saying it acted quickly in the matter and has apologized to Rubio and his parents. |
Why apologize to something they didn't do?
If Rubio was lying, the people who punished him would have came forward and argued this case. |
So they're Guilty until proven Innocent?
I'm not believeing that just because the kid went and said it, I 'd rather hear a statement from the school first.
It's probably not that they dont want a lawsuit on their hands, it's that most schools cant handle a lawsuit.
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Cathexis
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| Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:55 pm |
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| Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | | Founder wrote: |
Because in the article the school officials did not argue that quote. They clearly said it. Not to mention the bottom of the article says...
| Quote: | | The school district released a statement, saying it acted quickly in the matter and has apologized to Rubio and his parents. |
Why apologize to something they didn't do?
If Rubio was lying, the people who punished him would have came forward and argued this case. |
So they're Guilty until proven Innocent?
I'm not believeing that just because the kid went and said it, I 'd rather hear a statement from the school first.
It's probably not that they dont want a lawsuit on their hands, it's that most schools cant handle a lawsuit. |
Good point.
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Founder
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| Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:13 pm |
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| Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | | Founder wrote: |
Because in the article the school officials did not argue that quote. They clearly said it. Not to mention the bottom of the article says...
| Quote: | | The school district released a statement, saying it acted quickly in the matter and has apologized to Rubio and his parents. |
Why apologize to something they didn't do?
If Rubio was lying, the people who punished him would have came forward and argued this case. |
So they're Guilty until proven Innocent?
I'm not believeing that just because the kid went and said it, I 'd rather hear a statement from the school first.
It's probably not that they dont want a lawsuit on their hands, it's that most schools cant handle a lawsuit. |
Always melodramatic. *sigh* How tiresome.
Guilty until proven innocent? Yes. They are guilty the moment they suspended him for speaking another language. Don't even bother denying it, because that IS wrong. There is no law preventing people from speaking another language.
You're not believing the kid? Oh I wonder why... 
It doesn't matter if you don't believe the kid, because he was suspended. He can't make that up.
Not to mention, the school would easily win this case if there was another reason they suspended him.
AGAIN, they apologized for it. They know they are in the wrong.
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