What if Chakotay was captain instead of Janeway

Leo Wyatt · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:14 am What if Chakotay was captain instead of Janeway**

What if Chakotay was captain instead of Janeway. Janeway was first officer. Would Chakotay will be a better Captain? I think it equals out. I guess I am more of a maquis kind of gal. Please no bashin of them. Just mature conversation would do fine. Opinions fine cause I love to hear opinions, even though I may not agree with some.

Would Chakotay get the crew home faster? Or just the same? Don't get me wrong, I am still a big fan of Janeway.

I probably kick myself later for creating this topic, but I would like to know what ya think.

myblackrose

Doodels1991 · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:51 am**

yeh i agree. he is such a stiff actor, if you get what a mean

charlie · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:58 am**

I disagree with the both of you strongly. He is a great actor. People just misjudge him cause they don't really know him.

Voyager2004 · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:40 am**

^^^ I agree. He's a really good actor.

But I do have to say that from the CHARACTER'S standing point, he would rely TOO much on Kathryn, so she would be captain anyway. LOL...

Yes myblackrose, I agree! LOL...I liked your hyperventilate thing...LOL...

Leo Wyatt · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:16 pm**

I don't think he would rely on her. He is a smart man. He don't need any help from her.

myblackrose · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:35 pm**

Well forgive me if I'm out of line but I would personally consider having watched 5 seasons of Voyager to be enough to make a reasonable judgement about his acting abilities! I mostly blame the writers for killing the awesome character that Chakotay originally was but I still find Beltran to be too stiff as an actor...

I don't deny that he is smart or capable but I believe that he would still rely on Kathryn's opinion too much... he respects her, that's not a bad think but it works better in their current command positions. Kathryn just has that little extra quality that I can't put my finger on that I think is necessary to get Voyager home. I don't argue that Chakotay would be an excellent captain of Voyager under normal circumstances but the way they are, stuck in the Delta Quadrant, I think that Kathryn is more capable. Like I said, I can't exactly put my finger on it but whatever that subtle difference between them is, that's what he's lacking.

Leo Wyatt · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:44 pm**

Look, you don't have to get pissed off of someone's opinion. I asked the admin to lock it. It looks like this is going to get out of hand. Fine you don't like him. you don't have to bash him.

Nope I am not mad at anyone. I shouldn't created this topic.

myblackrose · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:48 pm**

Hey, I'm sorry if I caused any fuss but I really don't think I was bashing.

Leo Wyatt · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:49 pm**

There is nothing to forgive. It was just the way you started out your first sentence. But, hey I will always be a Chakotay fan. I missed judge him once. But, I was wrong ... Everyone has an opinion. I am not mad.

myblackrose · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:51 pm**

I'll edit if you feel that it was too sharp...

Leo Wyatt · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:52 pm**

Nah, don't. your opnion. Why should I get mad. I didn't mean to sound mad... Not a good way to try to change to get mad... Lol I am not mad.

myblackrose · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:01 pm**

Well, okay, but don't get the thread locked, I think its a good topic for discussion...

Leo Wyatt · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:03 pm**

( Note to Thomas: I pmed you about locking it. Please don't now.. I didn't want to bug you with another pm.)

I can be mature and not get upset by misunderstanding things lol.

Founder · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:03 pm**

Chakotay would be a better Captain, hands down. Not as many crewman would have died from their superior officer, like under Janeway.

Tuvok8917 · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:13 pm**

Once again, i agree with Founder. Like i said before: Janeway had to be killed in the First Episode of Voyager! I will stay with this saying, because it is the truth. Chakotay is, and always will be, better then Janeway.

Kasey · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:57 pm**

I think Chakotay would make a good captain. Just as much as Janeway.

Voyager2004 · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:29 pm**

Maybe just as much, but not better than.^^^

I agree with black rose above...Chakotay was a good character. And b/c of the writers he turned to an ok character. Would the writers have kept him interesting and more on his toes about thing, I would say he might could do as good as Janeway. Now, I have seen every season of Voyager and concur with her.

Yes, Kathryn does have that something that makes it. Chakotayd doesn't have it. He has it in his own way, but it's not the same.

TrekkieMage · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:51 pm**

Hmm...Interesting topic.

In the "Trek universe" so to speak, Chakotay would have probably been very suspicious of the Federation crew at first, but learned to trust them. And I think he would have run the ship very differently (not held the crew to Star Fleet principles and such). It would have been a Marquis ship, and Janeway would have come to blows with Chakotay about it. She likes to be in control, and she wouldn't pick a fight in front of the crew, but she'd definatly have a thing or two to say about it with Chakotay.

In terms of the TV show, it would have been very interesting. It would have given Robert Beltran (as unpopular as he is at the moment) more of an opportunity to show off his acting ability as the writters would have paid more attention to him. On the other hand, Kate Mulgrew strikes me as being a bit more forceful and outgoing with producers and such (I think she's had a lot more experience with TV than he has) and would have butted her character in a bit more than he did.

Wow. I had a lot to say about that! And now my fingers are about numb because it is cold in here...

IntrepidIsMe · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:07 pm**

I'm sure the show would've been canceled, if this were the case.

Leo Wyatt · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:21 pm**

Just because Robert Beltran is not popular with the people on here, doesn't mean he is not a good actor. Yes, I am disappointed with him of what he said or didn't say about the troops at the convention. But, I don't know if it was true or not. I don't go by here say no more like I use to.

In my opinion he is a good actor. Chakotay would have made a good captain.

lionhead · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:25 pm**

If chakotay would have been captain there wouldn't be any show now would it? Chakotay would have tried to get back too the alpha Quadrant with the caretakers device(or ship).

he wouldn't have diverted off course as much as janeway did.

Plus, i think considdering some of the decisions Janeway had to make too make it go right, i think Chakotay would have gotten everybody killed. numberous times.

Leo Wyatt · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:47 pm**

It is just a question Lionhead, it is not like he was captain in the series lol but thanks for your opinion. Real nice though... Nice post.

I don't think he would have gotten everybody killed. I believed he wouldn't put with the way Janeway treated him and throw her in the birg. But I am a fan of Janeway, I shouldn't said that. I am for J/C together but she did hurt him though...... If this didn't make any sense it is cause I am dead tired. When do I make sense? Lol

TrekkieMage · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:52 pm**

^ You make a bit of sense...

Cathexis · **Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:25 pm**

Goofy goofy! LOL HA....that's a good laugh, Chakotay rather than Janeway...

Cute...