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PostMon Oct 09, 2006 6:51 pm    Alaska villages reject Venezuela oil

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In Alaska's native villages, the punishing winter cold is already coming through the walls of the lightly insulated plywood homes, many of the villagers are desperately poor, and heating-oil prices are among the highest in the nation.

And yet a few villages are refusing free heating oil from Venezuela, on the patriotic principle that no foreigner has the right to call their president "the devil."


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PostMon Oct 09, 2006 6:53 pm    

Wow... these people have a lot of patriotic pride. I certainly hope something is done though, so they can recive heating.

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PostMon Oct 09, 2006 6:59 pm    

Good for them. And yeah, I hope the situation improves for them too.


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PostMon Oct 09, 2006 9:00 pm    

We should send them some of our oil.

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PostMon Oct 09, 2006 11:20 pm    

^ Nah, the Republican position on assistance to Native Americans is "let them open a casino."



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PostMon Oct 09, 2006 11:26 pm    

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^ Nah, the Republican position on assistance to Native Americans is "let them open a casino."



Never heard that one before. Seriously.

I love the fact that these natives are standing on principle. It's really enlightening.



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PostTue Oct 10, 2006 2:19 am    

Why is it so enlightening?

You're acting like this is a surprise. Why?


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PostTue Oct 10, 2006 2:25 am    

teya wrote:
Why is it so enlightening?

You're acting like this is a surprise. Why?


Because it is. I don't believe or agree with it one bit, or with the spin of it under which you operate, depending on what it actually is.



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PostTue Oct 10, 2006 2:26 am    

teya wrote:
^ Nah, the Republican position on assistance to Native Americans is "let them open a casino."



As opposed to what? The Democrat position of ignoring them?

You ARE aware that the casinos, despite being a stereotype, has helped them with money?


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PostTue Oct 10, 2006 8:57 am    

Republican_Man wrote:
teya wrote:
Why is it so enlightening?

You're acting like this is a surprise. Why?


Because it is. I don't believe or agree with it one bit, or with the spin of it under which you operate, depending on what it actually is.


Huh?

You said it's "enlightening"--and sounded like you approved. Now you say you don't believe or agree with them?

No spin. It just sounds like you're unaware that NAs as a group tend to be conservative. So it's absolutely no surprise to me that they responded by turning down Venezuelan oil.

No spin. It was a simple question. A simple answer would have been nice.


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PostTue Oct 10, 2006 8:59 am    

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teya wrote:
^ Nah, the Republican position on assistance to Native Americans is "let them open a casino."



As opposed to what? The Democrat position of ignoring them?

You ARE aware that the casinos, despite being a stereotype, has helped them with money?


A casino isn't going to help Alaskan natives in remote villages that people can't get to.

Besides, it was a joke.


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PostTue Oct 10, 2006 5:44 pm    

teya wrote:
Republican_Man wrote:
teya wrote:
Why is it so enlightening?

You're acting like this is a surprise. Why?


Because it is. I don't believe or agree with it one bit, or with the spin of it under which you operate, depending on what it actually is.


Huh?

You said it's "enlightening"--and sounded like you approved. Now you say you don't believe or agree with them?

No spin. It just sounds like you're unaware that NAs as a group tend to be conservative. So it's absolutely no surprise to me that they responded by turning down Venezuelan oil.

No spin. It was a simple question. A simple answer would have been nice.


No spin? Read carefully.

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I love the fact that these natives are standing on principle. It's really enlightening.



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PostTue Oct 10, 2006 10:21 pm    

I still don't get where you think I'm spinning something.

And again. *Why* is it "enlightening"?

To be enlightened means you've learned something--had a "lightbulb moment." What did you learn from these natives taking this stand?

I don't understand your statement and am asking a question rather than assuming your intention.


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PostTue Oct 10, 2006 10:30 pm    

teya wrote:
To be enlightened means you've learned something--had a "lightbulb moment." What did you learn from these natives taking this stand?


I disagree with that. I use "enlightening" in terms of having a spiritual effect upon me, or something like that. It's not a surprising, lightbuld-causing thing that I'm talking about.

And I was talking about spinning regarding your "let them open a casino" comment and arguments revolving around that.

I think we're just having a misunderstanding here.



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PostTue Oct 10, 2006 11:59 pm    

teya wrote:
A casino isn't going to help Alaskan natives in remote villages that people can't get to.

Besides, it was a joke.


Yeah...but no one said anything about sending a casino to them.

Anyways, as for the topic. I respect they sacrificed free oil for the defense of their leader and nation. There is hope after all...


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