Who should become president in 2008?

borgslayer · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:49 pm Who should become president in 2008?**

This is not a poll pick who ever you think should become president.

I personally want a democrat like Hillary Clinton as President in 2008 and no more republican presidents for awhile.

Republican_Man · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:54 pm**

Hillary? You want Hillary? She's a devil in disguise. That's quite clear.

Whom would I like to see run for President? Either Newt Gingrich or Condi Rice. Or Tom Tancredo. Or Rudy Guiliani. Or Zell Miller or Joe Lieberman.

TrekkieMage · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:56 pm**

I don't know yet. Once I see who's actually running I'll make up my mind.

CJ Cregg · Commodore Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254

Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana or Governor Mark Warner of Virginia

LightningBoy · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:29 pm**

I was hoping for Newt Gingrich, but I think he may have too many personal skeletons in his closet. Now i'm hoping for a George Allen/Condi Rice Ticket.

I'd love to vote for Jeb Bush, but I doubt he'll run.

borgslayer · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:41 pm**

Republican_Man · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:51 pm**

There is no logic behind what you say. She does not answer important questions and has a horrible record. Plus, she would make the country extremely liberal and hurt it much. She really is a political devil, anyways. I fear the day that Hillary becomes president, which is very likely unless the Republicans can stop her. You should check out the book "The Truth about Hillary Clinton." It shows how diabolical she is, and how horrible a Hillary presidency would be.

CJ Cregg · Commodore Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254

Yep thats right read the right wing book on her, im sure it has many good points about her. Or maybe not

heres a tip, why dont YOU read her auto-biography or The case for hillary.

Republican_Man · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:58 pm**

Susan Estrich's book? I watched interviews with her over it. There's no reason to do so. And Writing History? How about Dick Moriss' Rewriting History? A Hillary Clinton presidency would be a nightmare.

Republican_Man · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:01 pm**

I know Susan Estrich (not personally, but still). I've seen her debate and discuss her book. She doesn't make good cases, and O'Reilly crushed her by simply asking some good questions about Hillary that she couldn't answer--and she wrote a case FOR her. Plus, much of my family lives in New York. All but maybe one or two of them ABHORE her. She's a horrible Senator and would not make a good president. She's so diabolical, too.

CJ Cregg · Commodore Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254

http://mediamatters.org/items/200506230001

Just look at all the lies. Hes almost as bad as that awful human being, Ann Coulter

Republican_Man · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:11 pm**

First, Ann Coulter is a great person. She may be wrong sometimes, but she's FAR from an aweful human being!

Secondly, I've heard about MediaMatters. I find a very hard time believing that article. Maybe some of it is true--more than likely so--but nonetheless, I don't trust MediaMatters so much. It's a far-left outlet (as you can see at the side where it talks about MSNBC's coverage leaning to the right, which is FALSE. It's leaning disgustingly to the left) that all should be skeptical about. Besides, what I read from the book at the store is logical and truthful, so yeah.

Theresa · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:13 pm**

I think Rudi Giuliani would be a good choice. He's so... middle it's great. Though I'm sure some peeps will find soooomething to complain about.

Arellia · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:14 pm**

In all my wistful thinking, I'd like to see a strong libertarian candidate.

...not going to happen. I'm still considering voting third-party. I haven't seen a person make the bid for presidency who I can truly trust, admire, and believe in.

LightningBoy · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:20 pm**

Lord Borg · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:22 pm**

The only problem i would have with a female president. Is her Winning, or Lossing, because shes a woman.

Founder · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:22 pm**

Republican_Man · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:22 pm**

What was Gingrich about? And those personal family scandals happen to all celebreties, stars and politicians alike. Thank God they don't usually do things like that, and that was in the past. I put it aside, because it didn't involve the American people like Clinton's thing did.

Arellia · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:26 pm**

It doesn't really matter what the people do at home, it matters what they make happen in the presidency. However, I would like someone who's a decent person and politician. Maybe...oh, I don't know. An intellectual, a philosopher? *ahem* That eliminates...eh, upwards of 75-90% of congress.

borgslayer · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:30 pm**

(Ralph Nader will run again and lose)

Now I prefer Democrats over Republican presidents because they are more to the point. Democrats are about taking the right actions at the right time. If the country is in crisis you can always count on a Democrat to be there finding a solution to a problem. Like the good Senator Harry Reid who is a good democrat in my state and always does everything in his power to solve even the most basic problems. Hilary is one of these Democrats, she just doesn't get credited for anything because every Republican thinks everything she does will turn out wrong.

Ahem! If you look at Bush records everything he has done has some really bad side effects like appoiting the useless Micheal Brown to FEMA. I think this country right don't need a republican president because of what they are doing to country is just shameful. They aren't doing the job they are supposed to do like improve the middle class. Plus many of the Republicans promises hasn't come true or been done. The only good Republican is the Governator other than that everyone else is terrible.

Republican_Man · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:35 pm**

Deomocrats providing solutions? I've yet to see a solution from the democrats. They are the party of no and provide no solutions. The Republicans take more action than the Democrats on key present issues.
And I don't believe that Bush appointed Brown to FEMA. Did he? And if he did, he thought he was a competent man. And so he has his problems. So do Republicans. But at least we aren't nearly as corrupt as the Democrats and have better solutions to problems than they do.
You're a liberal, though, so you disagree with everything Conservatives believe, so of course you have that position. Oh, and don't go crying over Frist and Delay and Libby here. Look at all the corruption and scandals the Democrats have had since Watergate--far more than the Republicans. Whitewater, anyone?

Arellia · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:40 pm**

I don't trust Democrats or Republicans. The Democrats come off as ununified, crass, loud, hateful, and just unappealing and irrational. They also put too much emphasis on social programs. Republicans come off as aristocratic--even the Alabama senators and such come off as punishers rather than uplifters. (See the FoxNews interview about how Katrina was "punishment" of America's "bad" people) They also have this thing about oil and business thing that's reeeeeeeally getting on my nerves.

Republican_Man · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:43 pm**

Uh, most Republicans don't believe that Katrina was punishment for "bad" people. And I don't think that most Republicans go too far with oil and business (well, mostly business--oil I could somewhat agree with you on), but in my case, I'm not simply talking about Republicans in Congress. I'm talking about people like Sean Hannity and myself as well when I say Republicans.

Arellia · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:46 pm**

Sean Hannity's a decent man. Rush is... *COUGH* The incarnation of all bad things Republican, to me. And I know, most Repubs don't think like those senators. That was an exaggerated example, but it's the general feeling I get with resistance to alternative lifestyles.

Tyvek · **Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:46 pm**

Mississippi Govenor Haley Barbour is a possibility... he plans on running, but God knows he wouldn't even carry us (Mississippi.) He has proven himself to be one of the wort govenors in our history. Personally I am looking for Hillary and Condi to make a go for it, I like both of them and would like to see which one makes a better canidate for me to vote for.... but so far its up in the air as to who I really care to run.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haley_Barbour