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zero Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 4566 Location: Texas
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Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:06 pm Cannibal Faces Retrial on Murder Charge |
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Quote: | Fri Apr 22, 9:12 AM ET
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BERLIN (Reuters) - A top German court ordered a cannibal to be retried Friday, saying his manslaughter conviction for killing and eating a willing victim was too lenient.
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"The conviction only for manslaughter and not for murder does not stand up to legal review," the Federal Court of Justice said in a statement, upholding an appeal by prosecutors.
Armin Meiwes, 43, was sentenced to eight and a half years in January 2004 after a gory case that both fascinated and repulsed Germany and the world.
Meiwes admitted to killing a Berlin computer specialist, Bernd-Juergen B, he met via the Internet, but was spared a murder conviction as the victim had asked to be eaten in a startling case of sexual fetishism.
Prosecutors believed Meiwes should have been convicted of murder as he had killed to satisfy perverted desires. Meiwes' lawyer urged the lesser "killing on request," a form of illegal euthanasia that carries a maximum five year sentence. |
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zero Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 4566 Location: Texas
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Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:07 pm |
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uuugghhh, that is nasty! There are some sickos out there.
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:47 pm |
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I agree. It is sick , just sick.
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nadia cookie
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 8560 Location: Australia
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Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:31 am |
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Honestly, how could you eat another humans body? How yuk is that!
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 11214 Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:39 am |
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How could you want it done? nasty!!!
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nadia cookie
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 8560 Location: Australia
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Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:42 am |
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Do you think that because the lady was willing was how come he got a short sentance?
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:55 am |
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If she was willing then there is something seriously wrong with her.
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nadia cookie
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 8560 Location: Australia
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Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:59 am |
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Yeah I know,just imadgen what sisuation she must have been in to be willing to let that guy kill and then eat her!
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Zeke Zabertini Captain
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832
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Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:06 pm |
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I suppose that as long as it can be confirmed that all parties, both eating and eaten, are willing in the practice of cannibalism, it's not so bad. I must place my support behind Meiwes in this instance as long as his meal was, indeed, a voluntary participant. This isn't a legal argument on my part, just one of personal belief.
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nadia cookie
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 8560 Location: Australia
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Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:24 am |
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what if the lady didn't consent to it and the guy just said that she did so he wouldn't get into too much trouble??
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Zeke Zabertini Captain
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Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:41 am |
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I'm pretty sure there's more evidence onhand than just his word. Besides, it seems as though he's getting in a lot of trouble anyway. Cannibalism may be an odd practice to us today, but I see no reason for forbidding its practice when everyone is willing.
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zero Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 4566 Location: Texas
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Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:05 pm |
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I wonder what we taste like. lol... fish or chicken??
Hey Zeke, wanna come over later??
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Zeke Zabertini Captain
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:08 pm |
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Not if that winking means what I think it does.
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Starbuck faster...
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 8715 Location: between chaos and melody
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:05 pm |
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I must agree with Zeke. As long as both parties are willing, it shouldn't be illegal. Personally I don't see much of anything wrong with it. Its just a way of life.
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zero Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 4566 Location: Texas
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Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:23 pm |
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Zeke Zabertini wrote: | Not if that winking means what I think it does. |
aww, c'mon, we would have fun!
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nadia cookie
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 8560 Location: Australia
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Wed May 04, 2005 2:51 am |
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Was ther proof that she consented to it?
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Zeke Zabertini Captain
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Wed May 04, 2005 7:42 am |
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From what I've seen, there must be. It doesn't seem to be in dispute.
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webtaz99 Commodore
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Wed May 04, 2005 1:55 pm |
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zero wrote: | I wonder what we taste like. lol... fish or chicken??
Hey Zeke, wanna come over later?? |
A whole lot like pork, actually. A bit greasier, maybe.
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zero Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 4566 Location: Texas
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Wed May 04, 2005 2:03 pm |
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lol, ewww...
I guess Zeke is off the hook, I don't eat pork. That is some nasty stuff!
Probably is a lot greasier, being that america has become so fat.
yuck
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WeAz Commodore
Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 1519 Location: Where you aren't
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Wed May 04, 2005 4:36 pm |
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this is sickening. this guy should go to an asylum, not be given a manslaughter charge
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Zeke Zabertini Captain
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Wed May 04, 2005 7:13 pm |
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I suppose that's a valid solution. I don't see the point of locking him up though, if he's not killing anyone that doesn't want to be killed.
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Puck The Texan
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Wed May 04, 2005 10:52 pm |
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Anyone who is not concerned about keeping this guy out in society and doesn't think he needs to be locked up, and go to jail concern me.
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webtaz99 Commodore
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Thu May 05, 2005 7:01 am |
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The supposed "consent" is irrelevant. Murder is wrong, period.
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Zeke Zabertini Captain
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Thu May 05, 2005 7:35 am |
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I disagree. Killing is sometimes justified. When the victim wishes to die, it is assisted suicide, which I think is right. When the victim wants to kill you, it is self-defense. In war, innocents sometimes must be killed alongside the guilty to protect freedom and ideals, and this is justified. True pacifism is hard to come by. It's all about where you want to put the exceptions.
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webtaz99 Commodore
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Thu May 05, 2005 10:45 am |
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Assisted suicide is not murder unless the the victim is capable. Self-defense is not murder if one's life is at stake. Killing enemy soldiers who are capable of action is not murder.
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