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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:17 am Fahrenheit 9/11 Who seen it? |
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I just got done seeing it and I couldn't belieive it. Bush was still reading a book after the first plane hit the tower what kind of man does that? he should have left the school and done his duties. Another thing that upseted me is that Micheal Moore went to congress to see who would try and sign their kids up for the army or other branches and no one did. I guess only the poor have to sacrafice themselfs for this country. Another thing is that a woman lost her son in Iraq and she went by a stand of a woman who was protesting the president, well a lady came up and accused her of being a plant when she told the lady her son died her reply was "Blame Al Quida" its not their fault we are in Iraq thats Bushes fault.
Besides that who is looking forword to see his sequal to this blockbuster named Fahrenheit 9/11�? I personally can't wait.
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 4081 Location: England
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:26 am |
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Yes i would love to see a sequal very much.
I also was shocked at the bit where that amrican soldier was in Iraq and he was standing next to a tank and he started sing All you m***er f**kers burn...etc etc
I was apauled at that
Good film
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:30 am |
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I'll agree I was shocked at that portion of the film. I was also shocked about the images of the dead kids and that one getting stiched up. I can't wait to see what people will think of the sequal I know the repubs won't like it though.
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:33 pm |
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I never saw it. I did see Farenhype 9/11 and it basically disaproved everything in the movie. So I didn't bother watching it.
I love when people get upset about the Bush sitting for a full seven minutes. Seven minutes!? Dear God.....He could have prevented the entire attack. What Moore's movie DOESN'T tell you, im sure, is that he was told not to rush out of there. But whatever. Actually a few congressmen did say yes but Moore hit the edit button and suddenly not one did. Moore is notorious for editing his movies. There is no draft. This lday should have told her son to come home. If he chose to defend his nation, then that isn't the President's fault. He was a good man. Now im sure you'll dislike my views and thats ok. Im not asking you to beleive me. Yes this movie was very popular for its hard hitting Journalism. Im assuming the sequal will be about the same stuff. It will probably be as popular if not more. I believe Moore won an award for this movie too.
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:39 pm |
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Isn't it funny how people always try to throw a fit and say everything is a lie when they disagree with it?
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:51 pm |
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Yeah, you can tell from my post that I was throwing a fit. Geez, I need to learn how to calm down. I gave calm responses that you didn't want to hear and suddenly im throwing a fit.....
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Kyre Commodore
Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:04 pm |
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Founder wrote: | I never saw it. I did see Farenhype 9/11 and it basically disaproved everything in the movie. So I didn't bother watching it. |
But if you haven't actually seen it, how can you be so sure that everything was disproven?
I haven't seen either of them, yet.
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:11 pm |
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Kyre wrote: | Founder wrote: | I never saw it. I did see Farenhype 9/11 and it basically disaproved everything in the movie. So I didn't bother watching it. |
But if you haven't actually seen it, how can you be so sure that everything was disproven?
I haven't seen either of them, yet. |
Well the purpose of Farenhype 9/11 was showing the many inaccuriaces of Moore's movie. It showed each scene or sequance of Fahrenheit 9/11 and then showed how it was a lie. It may have not gone over every scene though.
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The Delta Flyer Commodore
Joined: 08 Apr 2002 Posts: 2163 Location: East Yorkshire
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:22 pm |
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Whilst I'm not particularly a fan of George Bush, I really can't stand Michael Moore - he (as far as I know) exagerated and didn't go into some of the things into as much depth as he did some other issues and was overly self-righteous. If Bush hadn't have been relected, I can see Moore taking alot of credit for it himself.
It seemed like Moore's little anti-Bush video rather than a professional film if you ask me.
I prefer Moore's other documentary "Bowling for Columbine" so if you've not seen that one, give it a try.
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:54 pm |
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If you've seen Fahrenheit 9/11, you should also see Fahrenhype. Perhaps add some balance?
And yeah, what could Bush have done in seven minutes? Maybe gotten to Air Force One seven minutes earlier? It's not as if he really could have done anything in the first place.
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Kyle Reese Cadet Gunnery Sergeant
Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Posts: 5672 Location: The United States of America
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Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:02 am |
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I haven't seen either, but I'd like to see em. Fahrenheit so I can sit there and laugh at it's apparent stupidity.
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Birdy Socialist
Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 13502 Location: Here.
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:45 am |
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I've seen it too. I was totally blown away. I saw Bowling For Columbine also, but Fahrenheit 9/11 was much more impressive.
Exactly, I agree on what you say Jeff. That the men in the congress don't want to have their sons in the army, all the poor people have to defend the country. Really weird.
I'm really looking forward too to see his sequal
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:28 pm |
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How interesting that it wasn't nominated even for best documentary.
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:59 pm |
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It shouldn't been nominated. I know there is nobody on base where I am at that bought the movie thank God. Everybody walks by it and is ashamed that PX has it there.
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:07 pm |
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IntrepidIsMe wrote: | How interesting that it wasn't nominated even for best documentary. |
didn't it have something to do with Moore wanting it on DVD so quickly I thought I heard something about that.
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Captain Leah Manzer Vice Admiral
Joined: 21 Mar 2002 Posts: 5221 Location: State of Insanity
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:39 pm |
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I really liked it. I think he went over board with the bush bashing (and I'm not a fan of bush myself). It was well done other then that though. I think you shouldnt bash it until you've seen it, especially if you have only seen the counter to it.
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:15 pm |
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Jeff Miller wrote: | IntrepidIsMe wrote: | How interesting that it wasn't nominated even for best documentary. |
didn't it have something to do with Moore wanting it on DVD so quickly I thought I heard something about that. |
Well, Ray was out before the Academy Awards. Am not too sure.
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m021 Lieutenant
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Founder wrote: | Well the purpose of Farenhype 9/11 was showing the many inaccuriaces of Moore's movie. |
Unfortunately, that's not true. Moore's movie was the result of work he has been doing for years: making documentaries.
Farenhype 9/11 was an anxious attempt of the Republicans to get back the votes Moore tooke from them.
Moore's intention was to tell the truth, Farenhype's intention was just to refute the facts of Farenheit 9/11.
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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m021 wrote: | Founder wrote: | Well the purpose of Farenhype 9/11 was showing the many inaccuriaces of Moore's movie. |
Unfortunately, that's not true. Moore's movie was the result of work he has been doing for years: making documentaries.
Farenhype 9/11 was an anxious attempt of the Republicans to get back the votes Moore tooke from them.
Moore's intention was to tell the truth, Farenhype's intention was just to refute the facts of Farenheit 9/11. |
No, unfortunetly for YOU it is true. Years? It if took years for him to make up lies and stretch the truth, then hes a bigger idiot than I thought. Anxious attempt? Uh huh....."The facts of Farenheight 9/11"? Those words don't go together.
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m021 Lieutenant
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 218
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Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:50 am |
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Founder wrote: | Anxious attempt? |
Yeah I know, I didn't remember the right word.
Quote: | Years? It if took years for him to make up lies and stretch the truth |
Try and read better. I said he's been making documentaries for years, not that he worked on F911 for years.
But if you seriously think that none of the things in Farenheit 9/11 are true, you're not of this world. Heck, what do I say, you're from America.
Have you noticed how many Americans who emigrated to Europe have voted Kerry? If you look to America from Europe, you'll see the real facts.
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed
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Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:30 pm |
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Leaving because you don't get your way just shows immaturity. And look at how many things Fahrenhype 9/11 disproved. How ignorant to take people at their face value and just go with what you want to hear.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:07 pm |
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Founder wrote: | I never saw it. I did see Farenhype 9/11 and it basically disaproved everything in the movie. So I didn't bother watching it.
I love when people get upset about the Bush sitting for a full seven minutes. Seven minutes!? Dear God.....He could have prevented the entire attack. What Moore's movie DOESN'T tell you, im sure, is that he was told not to rush out of there. But whatever. Actually a few congressmen did say yes but Moore hit the edit button and suddenly not one did. Moore is notorious for editing his movies. There is no draft. This lday should have told her son to come home. If he chose to defend his nation, then that isn't the President's fault. He was a good man. Now im sure you'll dislike my views and thats ok. Im not asking you to beleive me. Yes this movie was very popular for its hard hitting Journalism. Im assuming the sequal will be about the same stuff. It will probably be as popular if not more. I believe Moore won an award for this movie too. |
Actually, no. HE told them not to react, getting out his legal pad. Otherwise, what you say is true. But WHAT would you guys have wanted him to do? Jump out of his seat, rip off his shirt, "Let the bullets hit me first!" There was, really, nothing that he COULD do. What could he have done, hmm? Alarm the children? That's about it
Kyre wrote: | Founder wrote: | I never saw it. I did see Farenhype 9/11 and it basically disaproved everything in the movie. So I didn't bother watching it. |
But if you haven't actually seen it, how can you be so sure that everything was disproven?
I haven't seen either of them, yet. |
I saw BOTH Farenheit and Farenhype. I know that Founder is RIGHT.
m021 wrote: | Founder wrote: | Well the purpose of Farenhype 9/11 was showing the many inaccuriaces of Moore's movie. |
Unfortunately, that's not true. Moore's movie was the result of work he has been doing for years: making documentaries.
Farenhype 9/11 was an anxious attempt of the Republicans to get back the votes Moore tooke from them.
Moore's intention was to tell the truth, Farenhype's intention was just to refute the facts of Farenheit 9/11. |
Yep, sure. Enjoying the Kool Aide over there?
1. No, it was not a documentary. My Liberal (quite left wing, enough to believe that we should be attacked first before defending) Speech and Debate team Captain attests to that.
2. He took FEW votes from them.
3. HYPE WAS a documentary. Moore's was not. It was NOT an "anxious attempt of the Republicans to get back the votes Moore tooke from them." That's just a load of crap. FACTS? What FACTS? Watch BOTH, and then form an opinion. Founder, you should too
m021 wrote: | Founder wrote: | Anxious attempt? |
Yeah I know, I didn't remember the right word.
Quote: | Years? It if took years for him to make up lies and stretch the truth |
Try and read better. I said he's been making documentaries for years, not that he worked on F911 for years.
But if you seriously think that none of the things in Farenheit 9/11 are true, you're not of this world. Heck, what do I say, you're from America.
Have you noticed how many Americans who emigrated to Europe have voted Kerry? If you look to America from Europe, you'll see the real facts. |
It's pointless. Kool Aide. Like it?
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m021 Lieutenant
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Republican_Man wrote: | enough to believe that we should be attacked first before defending |
You know, there are even international agreements/laws saying a nation should be under attack first before defending. That's not being left wing, that's respecting the laws (and in my opinion, being fair, but that's just my view).
And what is "Kool Aide" anyway?
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:12 pm |
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m021 wrote: | Republican_Man wrote: | enough to believe that we should be attacked first before defending |
You know, there are even international agreements/laws saying a nation should be under attack first before defending. That's not being left wing, that's respecting the laws (and in my opinion, being fair, but that's just my view).
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1. Not quite, but either way, it IS a liberal law if it is real.
2. Kool Aid is a juice-like drink here in the US. There is a whole story behind a man (I forget the story...) who was blindly following a RADICAL (and I mean radical) ideology. Therefore, a Kool Aid drinker is one who is blindly following an ideology.
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masaka18 Captain
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Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:49 am |
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i didnt like this movie, quite boring if you ask me. though alot of people would like it, its not my kind of movie
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