SADDAM HUSSEIN ARRESTED!!!!

Paul Marshall · **Mon Jan 26, 2004 11:41 pm**

The point of this "War" is: There is no point. George Bush just did all this as a publicity stunt so his name would go down in history.

Theresa · **Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:30 am**

A publicity stunt? Has someone watched "Wag the Dog" recently? You really do need to pay attention to what's going on around you.
For that to have been a publicity stunt, Bush would have had to start everything in motion over twenty years ago... well over.

T. Dean · **Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:07 pm**

^I don't know. . . Bush is all about image. He and his father seemed to have learned everything they need to know about politics from Ronald Reagan. Like Reagan, Bush is like a figurehead propped up by his staff (especially in the case of Karl Rove). I'm sure it would not hurt Bush's policies to be realized if he can attach a historically significant mood to them.

I wonder if Kerry, Dean, or all those other presidential hopefuls fantasize about going down in history for halting Bush's policies.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

there are many things i would like to say, but I dont feel like having to listen to the endless crap I would have to listen to, so I will just say that I argee with Maquis74656.

Theresa · **Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:33 pm**

He may very well be taking advantage of the publicity in the situation he finds himself in, but there is no way he got permission for over 500 Americans to be killed for a "publicity stunt".

T. Dean · **Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:51 pm**

^I agree that it's not a publicity stunt. Paul Marshall was probably just exaggerating to make a point.

Mulder · **Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:48 am**

I think it was good that Saddam was arrested but the US shouldn't have started the war without permission I think.

IntrepidIsMe · **Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:39 am**

Permission from whom, the UN?

Theresa · **Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:22 am**

Perhaps from Saddam himself...

IntrepidIsMe · **Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:04 am**

I'm sure that would have been helpful

T. Dean · **Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:29 pm**

IntrepidIsMe · **Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:35 pm**

Well, that just seems silly. Nothing would be done objectivley if you had to ask the peoples permission all the time. I personally support the war, we are doing ALOT to help the people over there. If we didn't find any WMD, then at least we gave those people a chance to live.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

His permission was getting, elected, this gives him 4 years of 'permission' to do what he feels is best for America and the world, plus he had an over 50% approval rating on all of the polls I saw deeling with the issue.

Theresa · **Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:48 pm**

^Exactly. And Congress also gave permission. Congress is an extension of the people. If you didn't make your feelings known to your local government reps, who's fault is that?

T. Dean · **Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:07 pm**

Theresa · **Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:10 pm**

Hellloooooo, this was 3 years ago,

Bush obviously won, and THANK GOD he did. Can you imagine Al Gore on 9/11? "Please, Osama, "PRESIDENT Osama", the country is yours, please don't hurt me".

T. Dean · **Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:15 pm**

^Yeah, you're right about Gore ... but he did win (it would'nt really matter anyway).

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

i wonder if Bush had lost if Republicans would hate Gore as much as democrats hate Bush?

Theresa · **Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:23 pm**

We'll go in circles on the "who won" thing, I think it's rather obvious myself, but hey. So I'm just going to let that go.

T. Dean · **Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:47 pm**

^The media is definantly biased. According to NPR and NBC, the war is our new Vietnam; according to Fox, the war is a success. It's neither. The war is a success to those who favor Bush's Reagan-Thatcherite neoliberalism but it is a failure to those in favor of foreign policy led by the UN and other such alliances. Either way, foriegn relations have been permanently shaken. The UN is losing legitimacy, it has already been pulling out of areas in Iraq and Afghanistan. European nationalism has been splintered -- you have the Europhiles urging closer and closer unity in the EU as a way of competeing with US power; the UK being drawn way the EU by its strong alliance with the US; and the EU is itself split between pro-war countries like Italy and Spain and anti-war countries like Germany and France.

Theresa · **Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:56 pm**

I'm not too awful upset about the UN. The more research I did on it, the more ludicrous it became.
And the rest of it is Biblical, whether you believe in it or not. This world is well on it's way to a one world government, and the US will fall, without a single shot being fired.

[EDIT] But lets not get all theological,

T. Dean · **Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:05 pm**

^I disagree. I think w're heading back into a world of multiple super-powers. The new super-powers will be the EU (Euro nationalism is splintered but the euro currency is growing strong, this will override the Iraq issue and a stronger European unity will be founded because money and not rhetoric determines policies) and the People's Republic of China (which will have the world's largest economy by 2006 and already has the world's largest military and a strong position in the World Trade Organization).
It's not really Biblical but Orwellian.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

The Germans, French and UN government bodies = about nothing

As for the fall of the U.S. lets hope we dont live to see the day, I bet it could be one of the worst days in the Earths history.

Dont think EU will become a superpower though, just to European.

Theresa · **Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:13 pm**

T. Dean · **Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:21 pm**