What if Chakotay was Captain instead of Janeway? |
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Interesting |
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Tie |
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I am goofy for making this topic |
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myblackrose Commander
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 474 Location: Floating around...
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:33 am |
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Well, I've only ever judged Beltran by his acting on the show. I'd never heard about him saying anything bad at a convention, whats that all about?
I agree that Chakotay would have been a good captain, and I wish the writers had given him more attention, but he wouldn't have been as good as Kathryn, in my opinion.
I mean look at the decision she made to work with the Borg. Not alone would they very likely have been destroyed in Borg space, look at how many times Seven has saved the ship, or at least drastically altered the course of things for the good, since then! There's no way Chakotay would have made the same decision as Captain.
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nadia cookie
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 8560 Location: Australia
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:25 am |
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If Chakotay was the captain he wouldn't have distroyed the caretakers aray thingy in the first place
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:58 am |
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How do you know he wouldn't?
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councmatt Commander
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 453 Location: Elm Park - London
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:53 am |
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For all we no chakotai would of. he was in the maquis so in a sents i could be wroung but in the same sents i could be write. look at chokotai and his spiritual background. Would he or would he not of destroyed the caretakers eray?
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:06 am |
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If Chakotay was captain, I would have never started watching Voyager.
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:40 pm |
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I would not have watched Voyager if Robert Beltran was not on there. If was some other actor I wouldn't even watched it. Noone could have played Chakotay good as Robert Beltran.
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charlie American Soldier
Joined: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 598 Location: In The United States
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:32 pm |
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I would watch it both ways. I like Kate Mulgrew and Robert Beltran. I don't like Beltran much as Deb does cause she has a crush on him.
I think he would make a good captain. But, I think it would be a tie though.
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Voyager2004 Commodore
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2070 Location: Silverdale, WA
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:13 pm |
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I don't think he would have destroyed the array AT FIRST...As the Maquis Chakotay, he probably wouldn't have. As the Chakotay he was by then end of Voyager, yes he would have.
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harrykims#1fan Fan Girl Muskateer
Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Posts: 2916 Location: Leicester UK
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:59 pm |
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if chuckles had been made captain i woulda swithced my TV off in disbelief
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borgslayer Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 2646 Location: Las Vegas
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:17 pm |
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Chakotay would order all starfleet personell to get out of the danger zone and head back to a safer Federation Territory.
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Voyager2004 Commodore
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2070 Location: Silverdale, WA
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:47 pm |
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How could he do that when they're 70,000 LY from a safer Federation Territory?
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squiggy Stooge Two
Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 3007 Location: Messing with the fabric of Video Game realities. I'll summon Shiva on you! I SWEAR!
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:27 am |
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If Chakotay was the captain...
1) Janeway would be marquis.
2) Chakotay would have used the array to get home
3) Marquis member janeway would have rot in jail
4) Kes, the Kazon, Neelix, and Seven never would have lived very long or useful lives.
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~Voyager Fan~ Captain's Assistant
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 83 Location: On board voyager assisting the captain
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:20 pm |
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it would be so exciting
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:47 pm |
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~Voyager Fan~ wrote: | it would be so exciting |
Just so you know, posts like this, with only several words that aren't even a complete thought are considered spam. In the future, if you could elaborate more on your thoughts, that would be good. It doesn't have to be a whole paragraph or anything, but posts like "It was so fun.", "I like that one too.", "I like Tom.", etc.... are considered spam, and would usually be deleted, and the depending on the circumstances a warning might even be issued. If you have any questions regarding forum rules, you can view them HERE, or PM me.
-Puck
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Kathryn16 Captain
Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 646 Location: Bay Area - California
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:45 pm |
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squiggy wrote: | If Chakotay was the captain...
1) Janeway would be marquis.
2) Chakotay would have used the array to get home
3) Marquis member janeway would have rot in jail
4) Kes, the Kazon, Neelix, and Seven never would have lived very long or useful lives. |
You people are crazy that would change the whole meaning of the show...just think Kathryn Janeway a Maquis? In my side of the arguement thats outrageous but the part with seven not being alive thats a good one...sorry.
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Voyager2004 Commodore
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2070 Location: Silverdale, WA
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:04 pm |
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Well, the producers, while looking for a suitable female to play Janeway, after long failures of finding one, they considered having another male captain, but then said, "The first officer MUST be a female." Which means that Mulgrew, or another person, would have played the Maquis captain, soon to be first officer. But look at it this way, even if Janeway was the Maquis captain, she still would have been so exciting and probably still my most favorite actress...
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:51 pm |
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Kathryn16 wrote Quote: | You people are crazy that would change the whole meaning of the show... just think Kathryn Janeway a Maquis? In my side of the arguement thats outrageous but the part with seven not being alive thats a good one... sorry. |
Arguement? Who says it was an arguement? It is just an discussion. As once someone told me.
'' It is a message board and what is a message board for if not to discuss stuff on?''
OMG! I just learned something now.. hehe Now I won't post in certain topic in WN lol
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qjaneway Senior Cadet
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 24 Location: perth,w.a
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Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:23 am |
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for one chakotay often liked to deviate off course he said his first love was palentology if i remember as well as stellarfotography so he and janeway were both explorers as janeway was more understanding of the needs of her crew
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Voyager2004 Commodore
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2070 Location: Silverdale, WA
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Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:08 pm |
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But, if Chakotay were switched with Janeway and he stayed in Starfleet and Janeway were in the Maquis, then some of Chakotay's interests would possibly have changed. And even if they didn't change at all, he would have been in Starfleet for many many more years and would have also understood the needs of the crew and to not deviate off course so much.
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Kathryn Janeway - Equinox Pt 2
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Kathryn16 Captain
Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 646 Location: Bay Area - California
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Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:41 pm |
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My theory of this subject is that the missing element in they're relationship professionally also lies within ther relationship personally. Of course the situation and plot of the story would be totally different but the missing piece was Kathryn's tolorence in unique situations. Chakotay is a good person but he would be too soft and I know dispite 'protocol' he would put alot of stuff ahead of it unlike Kathryn did; 'protocol' was first and she was last.
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MakeItSo Commander
Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 406 Location: Somewhere in California
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Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:24 pm |
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He wasn't trained to be a Starfleet captain like she was so it wouldn't work too well.
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Voyager2004 Commodore
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Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:54 pm |
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Finish reading the rest of the comments in this topic...
If Chakotay was Captain, and Janeway was the Maquis, meaning Chakotay had a Starfleet Career, and Janeway dropped Starfleet...So, Chakotay would indeed have the training necessary.
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Janeway_kate Captain
Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Posts: 714 Location: In the snow
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Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:36 am |
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The ship would have crashed a long time ago!
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SirAnthony Senior Cadet
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 20
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Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:11 pm |
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The show would be really boring with Tuvok as the captain. Kate Mulgrew was te best choice for the part. Thank god the originl captin chosen didn't work out. I can't imgine Voyager without Cathrin Janeway. Shifty eyes and all. She was a presence to be reconned with. She also did a great job playing evil Janeway in that one episode. I forget the name.
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TrekkieMage Office Junkie
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Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:33 pm |
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Living Witness is the episode you're thinking about. Yeah, she pretty much rocked
Kate is an amazing actress. But even if she was still playing Janeway, it would have been interesting to see Chakotay in charge. It would have changed the feel of the show entirely.
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