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silent_one22 Commodore
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 2291 Location: California
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Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:55 pm |
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I just got the first of the Spirit Walk books. I'm not all the way through it yet seeing as I got it today, but it's actually quite good, a bit too much of Chakotay in my opinion, but well written.
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TrekkieMage Office Junkie
Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 5335 Location: Hiding
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:01 pm |
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Ugg, I need to go buy it...I almost forgot about it.
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Sam Kenobi Not a Duke
Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 10373 Location: The 'Verse
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 1:11 am |
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silent_one22 wrote: | I just got the first of the Spirit Walk books. I'm not all the way through it yet seeing as I got it today, but it's actually quite good, a bit too much of Chakotay in my opinion, but well written. |
yeah, that's why I'm having trouble getting through it. Way too much Chakotay.
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silent_one22 Commodore
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 2291 Location: California
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:18 pm |
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Yep, I got through the first short part fine, but the rest of the book is just...I kinda flipped through the pages and saw small bits of Janeway and a bit of Kim. Not really much about anyone besides Chakotay.
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Sam Kenobi Not a Duke
Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 10373 Location: The 'Verse
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:19 am |
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hey.. but the second book will be less about him. because it's something like... Chakotay gets kidnapped or something. that means... it'll be about everyone but Chakotay. which will be a nice change of pace.
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Sam Kenobi Not a Duke
Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 10373 Location: The 'Verse
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:38 am |
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OK, i decided what I don't like about Spirit Walk besides the fact that it's all about Chakotay. Christie Golden threw way too much of her own personality into Libby. It's really annoying because when I read the parts about LIbby, it's really kind of obvious that Christie Golden was lkind of like "well, if I was her, this is what I'd be thinking about". It's like... Chaucer and Castine... what? You write what you know, you know? Plus Libby's character in the book is just sort of out of whack with the characterization of any Trek-type character, be it starfleet or civilian. I just realized that last night.
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed
Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 13057 Location: New York
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:38 pm |
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What....have I been saying all along about her?! Crazily bad author,
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"Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being."
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Sam Kenobi Not a Duke
Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 10373 Location: The 'Verse
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:11 pm |
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ok, Aaron wins . See, I never thought that, but now that I think back on her other books, she does the exact same thing in all of them. It's kind of annoying.
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed
Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 13057 Location: New York
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:07 pm |
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Woohoo, victory!
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"Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being."
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JP Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 26 Sep 2004 Posts: 37
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:49 pm |
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Well Christie Golden is my favorite author, actually. *runs somewhere far away*. I'm about half way through the first book and so far, it's pretty good. I liked Chakotay well enough. He wasn't my favorite, buy not my least favorite either. I agree Traim on the fact that Libby was way to out there for this book. I almost all of Homecoming and Farther Shore very much exept her character. But what book doesn't have something negative about it?But that's about the only complaint I have so far. About Spirit walk or Homecoming and Farther Shore.
I encourage all to buy it. It really is wonderfully written.
JP
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed
Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 13057 Location: New York
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:31 pm |
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You HAVE to start reading more, if shes your favourite author,
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:38 pm |
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Can never get enough of Chakotay. He is the best and the most gorgeous man on Startrek in my opinion
I am not through reading it yet.
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Sam Kenobi Not a Duke
Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 10373 Location: The 'Verse
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Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:44 pm |
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OK... huh. These books, especially the second one, turend out to be a lot worse than I thought they would be- which is a bad thing, considering I already thought they would be incredibly lame (indians? sky spirits? seriously...)
Oh, Christie Golden? You should have stopped while you were ahead.
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silent_one22 Commodore
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 2291 Location: California
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Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:53 pm |
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Quote: | OK... huh. These books, especially the second one, turend out to be a lot worse than I thought they would be- which is a bad thing, considering I already thought they would be incredibly lame (indians? sky spirits? seriously...)
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I totally agree. I never thought they would be very interesting, but honestly, I got the second one a couple days ago and it's really boring. One of the few books I've read that I've had to fight to stay awake through...and I'm an insomniac.
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1/1 Rear Admiral
Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 3311 Location: La La Land
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:06 pm |
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~Voyager Fanatic~ wrote: | I like Chakotay, but i want Janeway to be the captain! |
Thats the one problem I find with the book too. I think Christie Golden is a good writer.
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Sam Kenobi Not a Duke
Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 10373 Location: The 'Verse
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:58 am |
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Yeah... there was only one good chapter in the second book- Chapter 18. But before that and after that it was like... "Oh... nobody likes indians" And then she left it wide open for a next book, naturally, by introducing some new idea into the story at the very end... no, two things... and then not even resolving them a little bit. That annoyed me. Because of course I'm going to read the next books, but you don't add something completely new and different into the end of your two-part story-line. That's just dumb.
And what's more, the characters are all very out-of-character. Saying things they would never actually say. Like that very last paragraph B'Elanna says. I mean... who even talks like that? And did anyone else catch a sense of a bit of Paris/Chakotay slash? Nasty. They never even liked eachother. Anyway... It was a good... structure... or... idea... I guess. But it was a little too qweer for me. (yes, I know I spelt that wrong, but otherwise is bleeps it out)
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ILoveHarry Admiral
Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 7909 Location: Houston
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:18 pm |
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Other than Chakotay, are there other Voyager characters in Spirit Walk?
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Sam Kenobi Not a Duke
Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 10373 Location: The 'Verse
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:34 pm |
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They're all in it, but Chakotay takes about 80% of the storyline. See, I was under the assumption that the second book would be about Tom going to save the day and I thought... cool, something besides indians. But there was about a chapter dedicated to that part of the story.
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Captain Leah Manzer Vice Admiral
Joined: 21 Mar 2002 Posts: 5221 Location: State of Insanity
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:39 pm |
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I'm not a big Chakotay Fan, but I'll read it just for the fact that it's Voyager . I saw the book in my bookstore, though it didn't really appeal to me at the time...
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:55 am |
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Hey now Triam, I got Indian in me so hehehe nothing wrong with Indians
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Lt. Colonel Reddings Captain
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 523 Location: Epsilon Beta
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:55 pm |
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I thought the first one was great, Im getting ready to go and buy the second right now. I enjoy the series. Especially the interlude about Be'lanna on Boreth. Great planet.
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The Delta Flyer Commodore
Joined: 08 Apr 2002 Posts: 2163 Location: East Yorkshire
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:34 pm |
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If anyone's read the first Enterprise "Daedalus" book, would you say that it is like that in the fact that while other characters are expressed, only one is focused on?
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KathrynDavismyalterego Lieutenant
Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 150
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:04 pm |
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Triam_Paris wrote: | That's because.. nobody likes Janeway. So they got her out of the picture for the most part So hopefully in the books... Chakotay won't make it... Tuvok will quit Starfleet, and then Tom Paris could be the captain because he's cool.
Anyway, yeah, I think these books look kind of like crap too. Who wants to read about Indians? I'll probably read them anyway, though. Can't give up on Voyager that easily |
I L~O~V~E!!! her and tuvok quite starfleet whatever
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Robby Lieutenant
Joined: 26 Dec 2003 Posts: 212
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:57 am |
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I love Native American culture and Mystic Warrior (starring Robert Beltran) is my "absolute all-time no questions asked" favourite movie.
HOWEVER, like a lot of you, Chakotay as a character is very dull and his spirit walks really should be kept to himself. I saw both books and didn't buy them - which says a lot considering I only read Voyager books. I loved Homecoming and Farther Shore but these seem tedious.
I was gonna just buy the second book, but after reading your comments, I don't think I'll bother.
Bottom line... Christie Golden should've done some market research and realised Voyager fans want more group action (no dirty comments boys 'n' girls).
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:23 pm |
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They only seem boring to those who are not really interested in it or don't like him. I find myself very interested in it. My husband bought the book at the px in Iraq and he is going to mail it to me. I can not wait to read it.
I have Native American blood in me.
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