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Mark Mag Gloade
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PostThu Oct 10, 2002 2:34 pm    Shields

what will a small sphere of light do to protect you?


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PostMon Nov 11, 2002 6:42 pm    

Do you think you could clarify that question?


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PostMon Nov 11, 2002 10:51 pm    

It's not light, its energy, and energy is matter.


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PostTue Nov 12, 2002 5:01 pm    

It's an electromagnetic field to be specific.


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PostTue Nov 12, 2002 6:34 pm    re

No, energy is NOT matter.

Energy is created in a Matter and Anti-matter Fusion Reaction, using Hydrogens and Anti-hydrogens. (This is actually REAL, nothing to do with star trek).

How the energy field is created (SHIELDS) i don't know, but it's NOT matter.


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PostTue Nov 12, 2002 10:56 pm    

i don't understand just how matter can protct u ageinst anti-matter torpedoes


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PostTue Nov 12, 2002 10:57 pm    

Yes, Electrical energy is matter, (That is not startrek it is real life). I know, We just learnd that last week, if you still denie it take it up with my chemestry teacher.


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PostSun Dec 08, 2002 8:53 pm    

Energy is NOT matter, does it have the physical properties that matter does? Such as MASS, VOLUME, DENSITY, ATOMS, or STATES of matter(such as: solid, liquid, gas, plasma)??

NO. It is not matter. It is energy, in fact, the only thing that is not matter is energy.


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PostMon Dec 09, 2002 12:09 am    

You should take it up with your chemistry teacher. I thin kther has been a misunderstanding either on your part ot his/hers. Energy is not matter. There is no room for negotiation on this.

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PostSat Dec 14, 2002 9:39 pm    

About shields...(I don't get anything said so far )

If the shields block attacks from Voyager how come things can still spark and flame even when the shields are up? Is it from impact?


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PostThu Jan 02, 2003 11:51 am    

well, the sheilds absorb the weapons energy on impact, so maybe the energy caused by it or the impact i guess i'm clueless so


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PostSun Jan 05, 2003 2:29 pm    

harry_kim wrote:
About shields...(I don't get anything said so far )

If the shields block attacks from Voyager how come things can still spark and flame even when the shields are up? Is it from impact?

I always wondered that, but I think it has something to do with the inertial dampers...but I have no idea.


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PostSun Jan 05, 2003 2:36 pm    

Because it doesn't block the full attack me thinks. Federation shields i think abosrb the attack instead of trying to reflect it.


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PostSun Jan 05, 2003 8:24 pm    

Just a guess: I think it's because the shield absorbs the energy fired at it. Since there is so much energy in the weapons being fired at the shields, it feeds through them and overloads some stuff. Hence the sparks and fire. I think it makes sense...

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PostMon Jan 06, 2003 1:04 pm    Shields

You are Right Fleet Admiral Zabertini


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PostMon Jan 06, 2003 1:07 pm    To EnsignParis

No EnsignParis it is from the torpedo impating the Shields and exsploding.


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PostTue Mar 04, 2003 6:22 pm    

It obsorbs the attack but not all of it. Thats why the ships can still take on damage.

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PostTue Mar 04, 2003 6:42 pm    

partly correct but ensign paris the inertail dampeners keep the ship up straight and everyone horizontal


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PostThu Mar 06, 2003 11:58 pm    

please ignore this post.


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PostSat Mar 08, 2003 8:06 pm    

That is known as Spamming!!!!


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PostMon Apr 07, 2003 9:09 pm    

Sorry, but energy isnt created and it is most definitely not matter! Energy isnt created or destroyed, it is only transferred.


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PostFri May 16, 2003 12:35 pm    

and. What about new shield in Endgame Pt.II.
it's dosn't in my database.



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PostFri May 16, 2003 5:16 pm    

fushigidane2001 wrote:
and. What about new shield in Endgame Pt.II.
it's dosn't in my database.


What???

As for the rest, here are my theories on it

Shields do not absorb the impact of energy. Think about it, Torpedoes.....solid matter.....not energy.....wouldn't absorb....., so therefore, I believe that the shields just take the brute force of the impact, and when someone yells out, "Shields down to 50 percent!" I believe they're reffering to the amount of energy left to take a hit in that section. And with all of the sparks and all, I think that might be feedback from the shields overloading systems, or for dramatic effect, whichever

Yes, energy is energy, not matter.


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PostThu May 22, 2003 9:06 am    

The shields of a ship actually use a counter-charge to dissipate an energy blast such as a blast from a Type-10 Phaser. And as it uses the counter charge, it looses percentage from its charger base. And Torpedos don't always penetrate the shields because they aren't using the same shield modulation/frequency. The torpedos themselves are shielded giving them their color when fired in direct varience to their thruster-burn color (i.e. Photon Torpedos accelerate using a red thrust-burn <the fire in the back of any missile>). Torpedos explode when impacting the energy shield because the energy creates a barrier (i.e. the detention/prison force fields that keep in the bad guys or good guys). They can pass through a force field without resistance when they have the same shield modulation. So that's basically how shields work. In a nut shell anyways.


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PostFri May 23, 2003 4:10 pm    

Interesting, to where did you acquire this information?

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