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Mark Mag Gloade Forum Drifter
Joined: 09 May 2002 Posts: 1590 Location: At the Helm, where else?
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Thu Oct 10, 2002 2:34 pm Shields |
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what will a small sphere of light do to protect you?
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Hitomi Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 08 Nov 2002 Posts: 274 Location: The Mystic Moon
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Do you think you could clarify that question?
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Tremiles Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Posts: 6672 Location: 60.6 miles north of starfleet HQ
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It's not light, its energy, and energy is matter.
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Oompsty Vice Admiral
Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 6613 Location: LA
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It's an electromagnetic field to be specific.
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One of Many Lieutenant
Joined: 10 Nov 2002 Posts: 160 Location: Beta Tauri
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Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:34 pm re |
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No, energy is NOT matter.
Energy is created in a Matter and Anti-matter Fusion Reaction, using Hydrogens and Anti-hydrogens. (This is actually REAL, nothing to do with star trek).
How the energy field is created (SHIELDS) i don't know, but it's NOT matter.
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bajoranhunter731 Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 01 May 2002 Posts: 32 Location: San Jose, California
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Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:56 pm |
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i don't understand just how matter can protct u ageinst anti-matter torpedoes
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Tremiles Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Posts: 6672 Location: 60.6 miles north of starfleet HQ
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Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:57 pm |
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Yes, Electrical energy is matter, (That is not startrek it is real life). I know, We just learnd that last week, if you still denie it take it up with my chemestry teacher.
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EnsignParis Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257
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Sun Dec 08, 2002 8:53 pm |
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Energy is NOT matter, does it have the physical properties that matter does? Such as MASS, VOLUME, DENSITY, ATOMS, or STATES of matter(such as: solid, liquid, gas, plasma)??
NO. It is not matter. It is energy, in fact, the only thing that is not matter is energy.
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Captain Michael Pike Captain
Joined: 14 Jul 2001 Posts: 597 Location: PA
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You should take it up with your chemistry teacher. I thin kther has been a misunderstanding either on your part ot his/hers. Energy is not matter. There is no room for negotiation on this.
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harry_kim Captain
Joined: 10 Dec 2002 Posts: 665 Location: Voyager
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Sat Dec 14, 2002 9:39 pm |
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About shields...(I don't get anything said so far )
If the shields block attacks from Voyager how come things can still spark and flame even when the shields are up? Is it from impact?
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IntrepidIsMe Pimp Handed
Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 13057 Location: New York
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Thu Jan 02, 2003 11:51 am |
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well, the sheilds absorb the weapons energy on impact, so maybe the energy caused by it or the impact i guess i'm clueless so
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EnsignParis Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257
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harry_kim wrote: | About shields...(I don't get anything said so far )
If the shields block attacks from Voyager how come things can still spark and flame even when the shields are up? Is it from impact? |
I always wondered that, but I think it has something to do with the inertial dampers...but I have no idea.
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Oompsty Vice Admiral
Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 6613 Location: LA
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Because it doesn't block the full attack me thinks. Federation shields i think abosrb the attack instead of trying to reflect it.
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The question at hand, help me understand, is this your plan?
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Zeke Zabertini Captain
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 4832
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Sun Jan 05, 2003 8:24 pm |
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Just a guess: I think it's because the shield absorbs the energy fired at it. Since there is so much energy in the weapons being fired at the shields, it feeds through them and overloads some stuff. Hence the sparks and fire. I think it makes sense...
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Captain Matt UssVoyager Commander
Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 453 Location: UssEnterprise-E
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Mon Jan 06, 2003 1:04 pm Shields |
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You are Right Fleet Admiral Zabertini
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Captain Matt UssVoyager Commander
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Mon Jan 06, 2003 1:07 pm To EnsignParis |
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No EnsignParis it is from the torpedo impating the Shields and exsploding.
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excel55 Ensign
Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 65 Location: Red Neckville USA
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Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:22 pm |
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It obsorbs the attack but not all of it. Thats why the ships can still take on damage.
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voyagerlr Commodore
Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 2448 Location: USS Shockwave
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Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:42 pm |
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partly correct but ensign paris the inertail dampeners keep the ship up straight and everyone horizontal
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parkan Captain
Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Posts: 833 Location: I now reside in the trekbbs.com forums. See you there.
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Thu Mar 06, 2003 11:58 pm |
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please ignore this post.
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voyagerlr Commodore
Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 2448 Location: USS Shockwave
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Sat Mar 08, 2003 8:06 pm |
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That is known as Spamming!!!!
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Hyper Ensign
Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Posts: 60 Location: UK
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Mon Apr 07, 2003 9:09 pm |
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Sorry, but energy isnt created and it is most definitely not matter! Energy isnt created or destroyed, it is only transferred.
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fushigidane2001 Ensign
Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 52 Location: U.S.S.VOYAGER ::: DECK 5 ::: Sick Bay
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Fri May 16, 2003 12:35 pm |
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and. What about new shield in Endgame Pt.II.
it's dosn't in my database.
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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fushigidane2001 wrote: | and. What about new shield in Endgame Pt.II.
it's dosn't in my database. |
What???
As for the rest, here are my theories on it
Shields do not absorb the impact of energy. Think about it, Torpedoes.....solid matter.....not energy.....wouldn't absorb....., so therefore, I believe that the shields just take the brute force of the impact, and when someone yells out, "Shields down to 50 percent!" I believe they're reffering to the amount of energy left to take a hit in that section. And with all of the sparks and all, I think that might be feedback from the shields overloading systems, or for dramatic effect, whichever
Yes, energy is energy, not matter.
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Dax Orien Helmsman
Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Posts: 856 Location: My own little hell.
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The shields of a ship actually use a counter-charge to dissipate an energy blast such as a blast from a Type-10 Phaser. And as it uses the counter charge, it looses percentage from its charger base. And Torpedos don't always penetrate the shields because they aren't using the same shield modulation/frequency. The torpedos themselves are shielded giving them their color when fired in direct varience to their thruster-burn color (i.e. Photon Torpedos accelerate using a red thrust-burn <the fire in the back of any missile>). Torpedos explode when impacting the energy shield because the energy creates a barrier (i.e. the detention/prison force fields that keep in the bad guys or good guys). They can pass through a force field without resistance when they have the same shield modulation. So that's basically how shields work. In a nut shell anyways.
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Lt.BirdGod Captain
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 619 Location: Sol System, 3rd planet from the Sun
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Fri May 23, 2003 4:10 pm |
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Interesting, to where did you acquire this information?
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